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Review It For Her #1: More Human Tornado, Let's Get Him Doing Stuff (Patreon Preview)

July 29, 202454 min · 10,851 words

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Garrett and Liam are back with our brand new Patreon series covering Wrestling Society X - we talk about the first two episodes of MTV's wrestling promotion (as well as the Xtras) and why it absolutely rocks. Check out the full series on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/collection/201011?view=expanded We'll be back in August with the Victory Road 2006 episode of the main show - our 50th episode! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Highlighted moments

This really is the Lucha Underground prelude. It is. In every way. In like so, so, so many ways. Like in terms of just vibe and editing and talent, it's just like, oh, this, it's so Lucha Underground. And even the contracts.
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there was a 14 second run in this match where Luke Hawks backdropped Chaos into an exploding barbed wire bed Nujak did a balcony dive onto Chris Hamrick and then Vampiro super kicked Alcatraz off the apron through a table all aired back to back to back no replays no like give it time to settle in
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it's wrestling badly but it's done interestingly and it's done with a lot of like speed so who cares that it's bad everything's going 100 miles an hour you're gonna get sucked in regardless
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Transcript

Introduction

0:00Hey, everybody, my name is Jesse Collings, and I am the host of the Gentleman's Wrestling Podcast, a show right here on the Voices of Wrestling Podcasting Network. On the Gentleman's Wrestling Podcast, we take a deep look at individual issues and stories that are going on in the wrestling world. Each episode is about a different topic, and we take a thorough and educated look at things ranging from current booking trends to breakdowns on individual performers and angles to investigations into different fan cultures across the industry.

0:31In addition, we keep a close eye on the wrestling media, and as a professional journalist, I bring a unique perspective to how current issues in wrestling are being covered and discussed through the wrestling media. We have a revolving series of guests from across wrestling punditry joining us on each episode, and we hope that you make the choice to give us a listen on wherever you get your podcasts

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Halloween Ends Discussion

1:26Hello there, friends. While you wait for the Victory Road 2006 episode of You've Got to Be Kidding Me, which will be coming in August, a special episode of our 50th episode of the podcast, and there'll be a special cherry on top of that one, too. That'll make it a first time ever, I guess. A small first time ever. A fun first time ever for our podcast. You can look forward to that in August. To tide you over while you're waiting, here's a preview of our Patreon series on Wrestling Society X. This is our first episode of that series for free. If you would like to listen to the whole series, the whole series is available at patreon.com

1:58slash kiddingme, where you can subscribe, listen to the entire series, listen to our Ring King series, our PWG series, our Reintakers series, our Monday Night Wars series, and our Lucha Underground series. All of them. Multiple extra series, all sitting there on patreon.com slash kiddingme, teenagechad.com as well as our watch-alongs and everything else. But without further ado, here is our first episode of our Wrestling Society X series. Welcome, everybody, to a brand new series here on the Voices of...

2:32Voices? On the... On the Voices of Wrestling Patreon. Yeah, we actually take a cut of all of their money. Oh, God, I wish. They don't know that exists, that's the deal, but we actually do. We just siphon money away. I mean, you've got to be kidding me, Patreon. I'm Garrett. You already heard Liam. We're talking about Wrestling Society X. How you doing, Liam? I'm good. I'm excited to talk about WSX. I think we are technically the official podcast of WSX now. Yeah, that Twitter account officially endorsed us. Yeah, so we're comfortable calling this the official Wrestling Society X review podcast.

3:06Yeah, we have been endorsed by the company. They've given us multiple name suggestions, none of which we're actually using. Review it for her was just too good. Yeah, we had some decent options because, like, we had XGunGiveteer, which you workshopped into WSX, go and give it to you, which was our front runner after, I like, we live in a society, but I'll always lose these things. And then someone did say, review it for her, and review it for her is, it's perfect. It is the perfect name. And it's also, like, the most notable thing to come out of it.

3:36So I was like, yeah, let's go. Andrew Ritz suggested Wrestling Society X Salmoned. Ooh, that's fun. Griffin suggested Wrestling Society X Patreon review show, which is perhaps a little on the nose. That's, uh, yeah, that one doesn't, that one doesn't, like, have flow as well, but hey, I respect it. It's the most, it's the one that will make you understand it the easiest. Yeah, Nathan Moore suggested Ridiculousness, the Wrestling Society X story, which is an MTV joke. And, um, a suggestion of 10 hours for 3.6 million, the WSX story, multiple options.

4:10But yeah, review it for her is just, the second I saw a review to her, I sent it to you. It's like, yeah, yep, that's the one. That's the name of the show. And, um, we should try and contact the, the ring announcer and get them to say it like a, a WSX, uh, ring intro. Oh, like the, the big, like, Circus Barker ring intro they do? Review it for her!

4:32Before we get into the Wrestling Society X of it all itself, how you doing? I'm good. I'm watching all of the Scream movies. Oh, I like the Scream movies. Maybe the most consistent horror franchise ever? Like, the fourth one's pretty bad. No, the fourth one's pretty bad than the third one. I don't remember the third one, really. The third one's the worst. The fourth one's rocks. The most recent one is fantastic. The movie rules. Yeah, five's pretty good. I have some problems with it, but five's pretty good. And, yeah, Scream.

5:02I saw, uh, frickin' Halloween Ends yesterday. I also watched Halloween Ends. I love it. I think it's a great movie. I think it's, like, diabolical. Diabolical? It's so bad. You're insane. It's so bad. It's such a great end to the franchise. It's, like, an unfathomably bad movie. Like, anything good about the first one he made in 2018 was clearly an utter fluke, given how bad the other two were. No, you're wrong. Halloween Kill sucks.

5:33Halloween End rules. Oh, it's such a terrible movie. It's such a terrible, terrible, awful movie. I love the theme of the town being a victim of Michael Myers. I love how it comes full circle. The last 30 minutes are the best 30 minutes in the franchise.

5:51Just great, great stuff.

5:57Oh, terrible, awful. I don't know if you think this is a bid for me, but it isn't. I love that movie. Oh, I just enjoy the fact that you're, like, screw John Carpenter's movie. This is the best it's ever been. No, I said it's the best 30 minutes, and that's because it basically is the John Carpenter Halloween. Like, it's the most, like, acknowledgement. Oh, that's, like, the biggest blasphemy you could possibly say about this movie. Oh, right. Halloween 1 and 2 are great, but let's not pretend the fucking rest of them are high art. I like Halloween H2O. I think that film's stupid and fun. Yeah, this is better than it.

6:28No, it's not. It 100% is. You're insane. This is the first movie I have ever given a quarter star to on Letterboxd. You're fucking insane. I gave four. Oh, God. This movie's, it's a wonderful movie. I went to the cinema. I had a fantastic time watching it. It has the best opening in a horror movie ever. Which I cackled loudly in the cinema as it happened. You are making very bold claims about Halloween ends. The only negative of that movie is that, um, it...

6:59It ends? Yes. Is that Halloween ends. Mmm. Halloween ends to continue forever. That first opening scene is hilarious. Well, I'm spoiling it. It is one of the... No, it's not. No, it's not. It's fine. I was going to even say it's good. It's so fucking funny. It's a very bad movie. It's a great movie. It's a very bad movie. You're fucking wrong. I don't know. I think you're the outlier here, pal. I think most people think the movie stinks. Oh, okay. I'm glad that most people... As if most people don't think things are...

7:30Most people don't have wrong opinions. Um, yeah. I know you. No, you. No, you!

7:38So bad. Oh, God. Anything else? Um, I don't know. You're bad at, uh, reviewing movies. That's about it. Well. At least I wrote... Did you write a Letterboxd review? Uh, I think I said this shit bangs or some shit. I don't know. Ah, some frickin' young person review that's just like, yeah, slaps, bro. Yeah, basically. As opposed to a deep, thoughtful review. Yeah. I know. It's awesome. It's a great movie. With the opening line of more like Halloween ends

8:08and he interests in the franchise. Am I right? Because it's terrible. It's not bad. I, you know what's funny? It's like, I get, like, there's one thing about that movie that I can understand and complain about, but for the most of it, I'm like, this is great. No, it's just, there's no tension or drama. Yeah, it's not scary. It's not a scary movie at all. Like, all of the kills are he just walks around and kills people. Yeah, awesome. And not even in good ways. He just slits throats. It's like, come on. No, the fuckin' Radio Shack kill was awesome. No, it wasn't. The one I'll give them was the super car run over

8:40and then he torches a dude's face. That was all fun. So that's, that's, that's the, okay, I'll give you that one. But the rest are just like, he just walks in and stabs people. Oh no, not stabbing people. Not even elaborately or with tension. It's just like, he just does it and they're dead. That's all that happens. It's a playground for him now. They built into that fuckin' fight between the two for 45 years. And it's like, it was a five minute brawl over immediately. Which is the inherent problem with everything after that first movie

9:11is that all they have left is that five minute brawl and they built fuckin' two movies around it. And it was great. It was a perfect payoff. Awful bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad movie. Bad movie. Terrible movie. I like how I gave long answers about how much I loved it and you were just like, you're bad though. I literally just talked for two minutes about the various ways in which it's bad and then said that. Your complaints were, the kills weren't interesting enough. Yes, it's a slasher movie and the kills sucked. But you're wrong.

9:42Have you considered the fact that you're wrong about that statement though? Your complaints were that one of the central ideas of the movie weren't interesting.

9:52You're just one of these nerds who all want the high spots. You don't care about the build. No, no, the themes are the worst. The themes are, and no, no, there's no, that's the problem. There is no build. There's no tension. And that's all the first movie was. The first movie was build. But, God, the fucking themes are the last one being like, the town is the monster. And now the themes of this one is like, the town creates the monster. Hmm. Yeah, the town creates the monster because it's a town that's been tormented by a fucking ghoul. But no, they created the ghoul. Everyone has got his stricken with PTSD.

10:26Maybe if they didn't give him mean stares, Liam, he wouldn't have killed everybody. Well, maybe if Michael Myers didn't slaughter everyone for a decade, people wouldn't give people mean stares and not trust anyone. Wow. You're putting the movie over and you didn't even get it. I don't want to do this podcast anymore. Let's move on to something objectively good.

Wrestling Society X Pilot

10:51Let's talk about Wrestling Society X. Fucking, yeah? What? Intro it. Go. So, Wrestling Society X, in case you've never heard of it, they shot a pilot in very early 2006, then signed a bunch of people to contracts, except Delirious, who's like, no, I'm not signing a deal that's like, you will have me under contract for as long as you want if this thing goes to series. This really is the Lucha Underground prelude. It is. In every way. In like so, so, so many ways. Like in terms of just vibe and editing and talent,

11:22it's just like, oh, this, it's so Lucha Underground. And even the contracts. Yeah, maybe not quite seven year contracts, but they did sign a bunch of dudes through a bunch of contracts, which if you ever played a TEW game in like 06, 07, very annoying. All those dudes signed to freaking Wrestling Society X. Unless you're playing as Wrestling Society X. It's like, no, I want my Jack Evans. Why is he signed to a written deal with Wrestling Society X? So they shot that pilot in early 06. It eventually went to series in early 07. And it was a complete flop.

11:54Cancelled before it even finished. It didn't even run the last episode. It was only released via DVD. But if you watch it, it fucking rocks. It's the best television show of all time. It is the most crazed, frenetic, insane-paced wrestling show you have ever seen in your life, which is such a stark contrast from this, for the last Patreon series you watched, GFW, and recently been watching mid-2004 TNA, both of which are like slow, nothing happening, boring shows.

12:28And then you watch, like, there's more that happens in, like, ten seconds of the rumble on that first episode of Wrestling Society X than it happens in the entire month of August of TNA. It says the pacing that people pretended Dynamite did. Ah, well, Dynamite gets close. Excalibur speaks faster than Wrestling Society X happens. Mm-hmm. You mentioned to me, I'm going to steal your point, I'm going to say it before you can, that Wrestling Society X is the version of pro-wrestling that people, like, use in, like, fake pro-wrestling in movies. Yeah, it's like, if you're, like, if there was a sitcom

13:00and there was a scene where people were sitting down and watching pro-wrestling, Wrestling Society X would be what was on the screen. Yeah, and they turned that into reality, and, yeah, it just, it just rocks. And it's so good. It has, like, a bunch of great talent in it. That's the thing, it's all, like, the, like, LA scene from 06, so you get a bunch of cool guys, plus all the, like, the hot indie guys, plus some Dragon Gate dudes, because why not? Why the fuck not? And everyone's just doing flips

13:31and going a million miles an hour and hardcore-ing it up. You know, like, it honestly, it is, to bring it back to another theme, it's, it is what they pretend the Florida promotion in heels is.

13:46Except that's TNA footage. But it's like, it should have been this footage, because this is what it is. It's interesting to see how, like, insanely edited this show is. Like, they clearly, I'd imagine, like, the opening match is Matt, Matt Seidel versus Jack Evans, we'll talk about it in a sec more deeply. But, like, I'd imagine they probably had a seven or eight minute match, and they cut it down to three, with, like, no filler. It's just, like, flips, flips, flips, doo-doo and cool shit. And the same with the Rumble, I'm sure they had a slightly longer match, and it's just, like, high spot, high spot, high spot, high spot,

14:17explosion, explosion, high spot, high spot, explosion. And the explosions look great, by the way. They do. They look so good. And it's so tempting to dunk on AEW's shitty-ass explosion when you watch this show. Yeah, like, how did WSX get this right? I wonder if there was any, because obviously this show is taped, I wonder if there was any that, like, they completely whiffed on, that's like, let's do it again? Well, like, I wonder, like, because the explosions go off so well that I wonder, like, if any of them were, like, effects put in.

14:47But, like, I go back and I watch them, and I'm like, it doesn't look like it. No, it's pretty clearly, I think, in the moment special effects with sparks going off. With some shaky cam going. Yeah, they do some of the post-production shaky cam. I don't think they do that live. They just shake the camera. Yeah, I mean, I love it. And obviously being, like, someone who's into a lot of this era music, too, I love the guests. Mm-hmm. Who do commentary? It's Liam's biggest tragedy that there's no version, it seems, on the internet of this show that has the concerts.

15:18I would love, love, love, love, love, love to review a 3-6 Mafia concert on this show. And, like, I think the concerts are only, like, two minutes at the end, but... It would have been nice to get the full experience. The episodes do end very abruptly, because I'd imagine that is just taking out the concerts, because these are all the DVD cuts that DVD was released, which I still have next to me over there, the Wrestling Society. Which is how we watch this. Yeah, definitely, absolutely. I watched them, then I mailed it down to Australia for you to watch, and then you mailed it back to me so we can do it again

15:48for the next episode. Yeah, it's... That is the optimal way. This is actually what your Patreon money is going toward. It's just going toward the postal service. Exorbitant shipping fees. Yeah. Yeah, I... The whole aura of this show I think is so good and so unique, and it's something that I think is missing from current wrestling. I wish there was... It doesn't need to be exactly this, but just something that doesn't look like the same show. Yeah, because this has a vibe. It has an idea. It has an aesthetic. It's not the same as every other wrestling show.

16:20You know what I kind of wish it was? What? I wish WWECW was this. Which is funny, because they went head-to-head. Yeah. For reasons passing comprehension, they're like, let's air our show head-to-head with one of WWE's shows. They could have aired it on Wednesdays. There was nothing on Wednesdays. Or aired it at... Because it aired at half ten head-to-head with the... Or I think it was half ten. Either way, head-to-head with the second half hour of ECW. It's like, well, you could have aired it after ECW or before it, so you weren't going head-to-head. Into it, you know? A very strange idea

16:50to air it head-to-head with another wrestling show. Yeah, like ECW wasn't like a juggernaut, but it's still like doing a million viewers or so that's taken away from your audience. It really did feel like it had the bones of something really good. Like it could have turned into something. If they actually committed to it and didn't cancel it before it even finished its first season. Yeah. And it's something that's always kind of stuck around in the wrestling zeitgeist, you know? Has it? Well, I feel like people do mention it as like that crazy MTV show

17:21when MTV got into wrestling randomly. It's something that I always knew about. Like some of the first, like when I was perusing YouTube looking at stuff was random Wrestling Society X stuff that would pop up. I was wondering watching this, are there people who have only seen Masato Yoshino on Wrestling Society X? Probably. That fast guy from Wrestling Society X, that guy was good. What's he up to? Yeah. I believe it. So, Wrestling Society X episode number one aired January 30th, 2007.

17:53Black Label Society where the guest musical act Zach Wilde was on commentary who Zach Wilde will mention in TNA history at some point. Oh, yeah. There's a tease for you. You'll have to wait a few years for that one to pay off. Of course, Zach Wilde most notable for Ozzy Osbourne.

18:11Let's leave Ozzy over. No. What? Ozzy Osbourne bad. Whoa.

18:23I've watched it. You see, my only exposure to Ozzy Osbourne is the Osbournes. So, that's his music. Maybe my favourite band of all time. And to be fair, it's not even like a dislike of the show The Osbournes because him shouting at Sharon is very enjoyable. I just watched far too much of it. Okay. So, like, there was about to be another Halloween Ends fucking attack right now and I was going to be like, fuck you.

18:48Whoa. Okay. We got through this. We moved on from that and we didn't have to go into this. Yeah, it's not an attack on the man's musical career. It's just his reality television career. Which I've never seen so I don't care. It's not a bad show. It's him being aloof and stupid and shouting Sharon! That sounds great. I don't know what your problem is. I just watched too much of it. I grew up in an era where it was always on TV. Oh. Sounds like a you problem. It was the ridiculousness of my era. Ah. Are they doing it again? What? The Osbournes? Yeah.

19:19I don't know. I think they're doing it again because they're making him move to England to film it. I kind of miss that era of reality TV shows where it was just like I know it's technically what the Kardashians is but the Kardashians were only famous because of that show as opposed to let's just stick a camera in the house of a reality or like an actual star like Hogan Knows Best style. Fair enough they did like scripted antics but they always do. Ah yeah. In 2022 it was announced the show would return to follow the family in the UK.

19:50I assume it's like Paramount Plus they're streaming or something is it? No it isn't. Because that's a typical streaming thing it's just like let's revive the Osbournes. Ah BBC said to bring back the Osbournes. What? Yep. The Beebe or like let's bring back the Osbournes? Yeah. To be fair Sharon is like it launched her career as like an actual star. And people hate her because of it. Sure. I hate Aussie because of it. You're like the one person who comes out of that going you know Sharon's pretty great

20:20but this Aussie guy. Team Sharon. Yeah coming back 2022 Osbournes also famous for all guest hosts. Oh yeah. Where um Chris Masters did the peck bounce to Crazy Train and Aussie loved it. Wouldn't we all? That's uh Chris Mordeski of GFW fame in case you didn't know. Chris Adonis of Rinka King fame. Yes. We always have to relate everything back to Rinka King and GFW and Pressing Society X. There is only one person who spans all three of those I believe unfortunately.

20:53Jeff Jarrett. So our commentary team was Chris Kloss and Brett Ernst. Who are much better on the regular show and who are awful and I fucking can't stand them on the extra show. Yeah because I watched the first episode and they were just the normal announce team going nuts with cool shit and I'm like oh yeah they're fine and then you watch the first extra in the Human Tornado Luke Hawks Puma match where I'm just doing bits about how much they hate each other and I'm like shut the fuck up. Yeah they become the standard pretending to try and be Bobby Heen in Gorilla Monsoon

21:25except unbearably. Yeah. It's two Kevin Gills. It's the worst. Like it's absolutely unbearable and they do more sniping at each other in the second episode too because obviously the first episode was the pilot and the second episode was like the actual TV tapings so maybe it was like a creative choice after the first episode to be like you guys should shout it to each other. I'm hoping they stick to it just being regular commentators. It's hideous. It's absolutely awful after the first episode.

21:55Cannot stand it. But that first episode they were fine they just did normal commentary. Yeah and you had Chris Wilde being like Matt Sidell a bitch. Sorry Zach Wilde. Why does that know I said Chris Wilde? Is Chris Wilde a person? Chris Wilde is a person. He was once Sheffield United manager. Chris Wilde is an American actor. Hmm. So the opening match

WSX Opening Match

22:14of Wrestling Society X they got right into the action. They were going to the opening match entrances within the first minute. Was Matt Sidell with Lizzie Valentine versus Jack Evans in even like excluding Wrestling Society X house style I don't think you could have a more perfect first match for your new wrestling company than Matt Sidell versus Jack Evans. Yeah this is awesome. They both go out there they kill it. I love Lizzie Valentine. She's great. I kind of love the characters that they establish immediately with these guys. There's even like the subtle like choice of having

22:45Matt Sidell kind of make it like a normal entrance and then Jack just comes from the fucking raftist. Yeah because Matt Sidell's playing like a college heartthrob character and Jack Evans is just this cool breakdance dude. Yeah. I kind of love this like Lizzie Valentine character too where it's like after the match they have this match and she's like disgusted by Jack Evans but once Jack Evans wins she's like oh man this Jack Evans guy he's kind of cool. Yeah she's giving him the eyes like Jack Evans gives her a look and she's like yes I am interested. Yeah. Lizzie she wants to she wants to hang out with the bad boys.

23:15Well Jack Evans is the baby face so technically he's the good boy. But he's the bad boy because Matt Sidell is straight laced jock and Jack Evans is this hip hop boy. He does breakdance and probably listens to rap. Probably. As opposed to Matt Sidell. He used to rap. Well that's true too. But that hasn't been established in the Wrestling Society X character Liam. These are different people in this company. Oh for sure. How will the casual fan know about his rap life? Except for how he looks presents himself. He's breakdancing.

23:46Fabian Kalin is the ring announcer and he does do the full like this is Wrestling Society X and does firing up the crowd like full Melissa Santos Lucha Underground. Yeah. It really is crazy how Lucha Underground really bit everything from this. Even the venue! Well yeah because they have the bunker here which the idea is this is a secret society wrestling underground some might say as opposed to the temple of Lucha Underground. How did you feel about the original name

24:17for WSX? What was it? Rancid Pro Wrestling. WSX is much better. Yes it is. But I believe it would have been named after the punk band Rancid specifically not just calling the wrestling Rancid. Well some of it might be Rancid. I'm sure Jim Cornette thinks it's Rancid. Because this is kind of what he pretends AEW is isn't it? Yeah a little bit. And this is also great. It's probably better than AEW these days. This is a lot of fun. Also if you have a problem with the number of cuts to people in the crowd

24:48in modern wrestling boy will you love them here in Wrestling Society X. Yeah I weirdly don't mind it though you know. I'm like because I guess it's the aesthetic choice that lets it work. The one that did annoy me in this match was the number of cuts to Lizzie Valentine. Gotta put over the character. She's a regular MJF. I thought that I think the thinking was we can't go more than 15 seconds without cutting back to the attractive woman or people will tune out. So every time one of them does a move we will cut to a Lizzie Valentine

25:18reaction shot. and commentary would be very mean to her. This was it was every Matt Sydal Jack Evans match you've ever seen cut down to three minutes where they just do flips do crazy shit Evans hits a tornado DT off Lizzie's back follows with the 630 to win. Their perfect sprint is like perfect perfect perfect match to kick off both what Wrestling Society X is meant to be which is batshit crazy insane stuff and even like if you were starting any company you could not do better than Matt Sydal versus Jack Evans

25:49two guys who at this time didn't have any exposure well Matt Sydal actually well both have been at TNA but that barely counts didn't have WWE exposure where their own guys doing their own thing and you could be like this is what makes us cool and different and also defines our style. Great first match. Yeah it's what you want especially from a show like this. So we had a quick feature on all the new teams

WSX Rumble Match

26:13coming to WSX then we also had a bunch of backstage promos from Just Incredible New Jack, Teddy Hart, Chaos and Aguilera about the upcoming WSX Rumble so the main event of this show was a 10 man rumble coming out in loosely divined intervals some of them were like a minute some of them were like four some of them were three seconds yeah so 10 wrestlers come out there are two contracts hanging above the ring that people can be eliminated from the match by being thrown over the top rope to the floor but by the time all 10 come out

26:43whoever's left can climb a ladder and grab one of the contracts the two wrestlers who grab a contract will face off the following week to crown the first Wrestling Society X champion yeah I think this is an interesting match style I'm not a fan of like hot shredding their first champion like this but what are you gonna do it's a scumbag promotion with scumbag like episode weekly episodic shit that's gonna die in one season so you might as well get it done out of the way quickly I don't know Chris Kloss says they know the WSX title

27:14is the future of this great sport so maybe maybe and I will say I think I prefer it to spending the whole season crowning a champion like GFW did or like um I think The Chunderground did that too I think the ring hacking approach of like about halfway through was probably the nice the nice middle ground there you need I prefer some build up but also I don't care about the WSX title Sire whatever you don't care about the prestige and legacy of the Wrestling Society X Championship Liam

27:45how no uh this match was batshit insane yeah it was crazy um they all did a bunch of bullshit there's explosions there were fucking weapons everything's gone crazy you had Nujak you had the Crimson Dragon it was crazy what do you want from me you did have the Crimson Dragon which I wonder is Nujak mad at him because he watched his NWATNA it's like I know you're Crimson Dragon I fucking hate you you're shitty gear I think Nujak just hate to everyone Zaxby's Giant Chicken Finger Wraps are no snack in fact they're so big

28:15they get their own menu get one in your choice of Asians in Zation Buffalo Blue and Chicken Bacon Ranch and you know they're coming packed with three crispy hand-breaded famous fingers fresh ingredients and their signature sauce all wrapped to perfection big on size bolder on flavor but that's just how they do it at Zaxby's Zaxby's Giant Wraps they're no snack who's got the sauce Zaxby's there was a 14 second run in this match where Luke Hawks backdropped Chaos into an exploding barbed wire bed

28:47Nujak did a balcony dive onto Chris Hamrick and then Vampiro super kicked Alcatraz off the apron through a table all aired back to back to back no replays no like

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