S3, Ep. 9- Prepping for Arena Trials

Introduction

0:00Hello, and welcome to BarrettMountainBC.com, Stock Dog Philosophies Podcast. I'm your host, Stice Faker Barrett, and joining me as always, almost always, who's gone last time, or the time before last, my brother, Justin Sugar Barrett, joined by our dad, Buford Barrett. I'm here. He's here with us. There we go. So, we just had our 50th episode with A&G.

0:32It's already doing really, really strong numbers after just a week. Probably as good as anyone we've had. I've had several comments just kind of talking about how much people enjoyed it, and that's something we hope to continue to do in the future.

Future Plans

0:43I mean, we have lots of... I really got some good comments that it was better than some of the podcasts that people paid for. So, okay. Good, Vey. I listened back. Really, really good. The only thing I think I've got to work on is I have, like, I go through the edit, I have AI. I listen to a lot of it, but I have AI go through it, and it removes, like, extra sounds or your background noise. I think it treated your... Whistles. Your whistles as background noise. So, the whistle... All right. So, only me, you, Dad, and Angie know how bad you whistled for me.

1:15Everybody else can't really fully hear that. So... Well, they can come to a trial and hear it. I'll still win. I'll still do a place well, but you'll be really wondering. Yeah, the trial's a good point.

Creek County Classic

1:26We're going to have our... Creek County Classic, all of 4-H FFA fundraiser trial at the Creek County Fairgrounds this next weekend, and we do play at the live stream. Super excited that we have the FFAs involved with the trial, because if we don't start these, if you don't get them introduced to it young, you may lose the kids before they... Yeah, you can maybe introduce some kids to it young, you want to get into it, some new

1:56families that maybe could need dogs, because, I mean, they're clearly probably living on a farm or have some connection there, and so it's a really important way for us, we kind of believe, before we do this podcast, right, to help spread the love and publicity of the sport, and so it's a good opportunity to do that. Yeah. I mean, it's a fantastic way to involve the public in a very easy way. Yeah.

Trial Details

2:21Definitely easy to come watch. It could be pretty good weather. Yeah, so it shouldn't be super cold in there, although it's indoors, so the weather isn't too much indoors. And we do not have our heaters on this year. Heated seat, heated bleachers. Heated bleachers. They'll have a little concession set up going on, I think, and we have lots of runs, lots of novice runs, it'll be awesome, and it'll be kind of fun, as the plan is, for us to kind of live stream it, maybe me and you can get on the mic and kind of talk about some of the runs while they're happening, and it could be kind of fun or helpful to the novice.

2:53We can talk about what's happening and give them some notes on the run they could look back and refer to as they watch it later. So that's kind of a fun way to do that, so we're going to produce that this weekend. And there was a lot of other trials in the area going on, and we still got good numbers. It's all numbers. We still got the numbers. I was hoping for them, so I'm always happy with that. Yeah, so definitely very excited about it.

Run Recaps

3:12But yeah, so we've been doing some of these episodes, these run recaps, I'm going to call them, at the post, kind of moments Dad had one he wanted to do. I'm looking at our YouTube page and pull up some old runs as well. So we'll look at two today. Both of them are Dad's runs. Because somehow, we don't film for each other, but we'll film Dad's because he requires us to film. We're both there, and it just makes sense.

3:42We actually did one of yours last time when you weren't here with us, the time before when you weren't here with us. Yeah. I don't know if you'll go back and listen to that, but we did break it down pretty good. Ah, you made fun of me, I bet, too. Ah, not too much. Not too much, but a little bit. Which dog was it? It was old Woody. Okay. And he has good run. We'll change the screen here, and we'll start with, I don't know how great the quality is going to be, but we'll make the most of it.

Dad's Run

4:10This was a memorable trial for us. This is like six gigs. And speaking of small arena trials. This was a small one. This one. Hopefully the feed footage gets better, but you can, it's 2025, you can figure it out. You know? We need some good, bad. I believe this was a, was this? This is, I'm going to stop real quick on this. I just want to mention something. So as we're doing this, again, we're breaking them down. As we're looking at this, this is a struggle you're going to see lots of times in an arena

4:44trial, and why it's tough to really judge them, especially the small arenas, is how do you lift when they're on the fence and don't get off? Yeah. And so the effect that we might have done, was this one judged? Yes. And then another one was, um, not just a point in time. And so we're going to do a mix of those when we can. We're going to set up our course like a judge course, but it won't really be judged, except for the nursery. Right. We'll just do the regular standard course. But like, as a judge, you really can't take out too much here, because your dog doesn't have a chance to get behind. No, and they were running to where the set out was, so. Yeah. Where they kicked him out, so.

5:14And so that, that happens, just kind of a quick explanation of what we're seeing right there. And then you just get around them when you can. The dog's going to have to be able to go in the tight corners. Okay. Typically, you work in a big, open field. There's not pressure all the way around the dogs. They can flank really fast. And wide here, you want to be controlled, slower, and nobody else is controlled and slower better than Carmi. She won this pretty, fairly big, and I was sitting there the whole time watching, because I was right off the bat. Was this the. Is it Nebraska?

5:45Yeah, but was this the judge section or the time section? She won the judge section. And I didn't know how we would do, because I had never really traveled with Carmi. This was our first big out-of-state trial for us back in the day.

5:582017? 2017, maybe? Yeah, somewhere around there.

6:05Go ahead, sir. Okay. Sorry, I just wanted to point that out about the lift there. You get around them, we bring them back to the center. I'm not sure if they have some sort of barrels or coast or whatever it was. And we're right down the groove there. They had nothing there for the middle of them. You just had to figure. There's no markers. Sometimes it happens, because these don't take up space elsewhere. And so we turn. Good, tight turn. I'm going to rewind that just a little bit. Let's look how tight this turn is just. It's a good turn. Especially in that. Coming in dead straight.

6:37They stop. Beautifully. Turn. She's flanking. See how she's slowing down? Good stop. I mean, there's no extra forward steps. She's just off them enough to keep them. I think the drive's like with the fence. It's pretty close. We were. Yeah. Didn't get that turn. You can kind of see a panel there. I think the ability to drive is on the fence. Yeah. Turn it back towards a cross drive. You can kind of make the panels out right there. Yeah. Yeah. Want to turn them. Yeah. Head's looking right in the middle.

7:08It went through. And then she's walking in, walking in. And then you're going to have a flank here in a second. And I just want to stop just for a second right here and just talk about the next piece of this. Obviously, you know, judge trying to do it very much, but as you do a more point in time, working along the fence, how do you, how do you try to handle that, right? Because you don't, you think, okay, when I'm working, I want my dog to be at 12 o'clock, right? Or that spot directly behind her to move him. Yeah.

7:39But the fence is providing pressure for the dog the whole time. It's going to be kind of at like a 45 degree angle between them and the fence. I think, I think the next video will be the same way. It was tough because you're pushing them into the fence and it was fairly tight there and the people are right there. And so you had to push them to the fence. They didn't want to go there. And so your dog has to be willing to flank into the fence. Yes. And push them into that fence. All right. I just wanted to point that out. Just about fresh.

8:09Anything, Justin, on that? Do you work much in the fence at all? It is something I think you have to work on a little bit, maybe before these trials. One of those changes you do just preparing for an immunity trial versus a field trial. Because you're not going to have to deal with that in a field trial. Yeah. Hopefully not. If it's a judge situation, I'm trying to send the dog early enough to make that turn fast because I don't want to hit that fence. I want to kind of just scrape the backside of the panel. But more points in time situation, I'm going to use it, flip the dog and go once they hit

8:41the panel and maybe use the fence to my advantage if they're moving better that way. If I'm in the first round of the day, I don't know how they're moving in this space. But once you kind of get going, you feel that the sheep will run down the fence and you can get what you want when you need it. Just send the dog comfortably along the fence. And it depends on the dog you have and how comfortable they are with those directions. Nothing to do with this trial. With this run, I just wanted to point out that you and Ty had to go back there and set the pens up, the set out for the trial.

9:12This one? Yes. Yeah, we traveled all the way to Nebraska. We get there and they were having so much trouble, those kids, and I told you guys to jump over there and fix that. And y'all set the pens up so they could work them through. That is true. I have forgotten that now. That's another reason. No matter where we go, we have to work. Very rarely have we went somewhere and just been able to chill the entire time. Yeah. It's very weird almost to sit there all day and do nothing. I have to tell you that. After doing so much, it's like, what do I do all day? Yeah.

9:43We'll have that experience this weekend. All right. Moving. Well, on and on thing. You think that. I'll be busy the whole time, Ty.

9:55And we're getting them off the fence. See, but you're seeing a great point with Carmy. She's not pushing too hard. She's just barely, not really quite on the throttle to make them run hard. We're having to set up and do the shed. This takes a little bit to get in. I think you're going in the pin. No. Well, maybe we're pinning, yeah. You're pinning. Oh, yeah. She, I'll have to stop it up. Yeah, we got a pin. You'll see where we... They stop right there. It really helps me in the pin, to pin them here at the end. It's something she does. I didn't even notice. Look at us.

10:25She's got a flex.

10:28She's got a good... Without stepping in. She's not taking steps really in. She's taking a flex point and covering the edges. She's going to go behind me here and turn these. And it's not me doing it. That's her. Yeah, she just felt that. You wouldn't even look at her. She just... Okay. That's what you want. That's what you want a dog that can do it for yourself. We're not building robots. Right. We want dogs that are free thinkers. That do the right things. We train them to do what they're supposed to do. And they know what they do. Better than us sometimes. Yeah, she did that with that. Me knowing she did it. I didn't notice it afterwards. I just noticed they turned and went in.

10:59And it's because she did that. Good setup right here. They're stopped. These have been decent. They're not going to... I don't think they're going to try to run behind you. They've kind of stayed pretty good. Yeah. Sheep that will stand like this are a little bit easier to shed there. A little bit knee knockers. But not too bad in a way here. Did you have your crook at this point? Yeah. Yeah, I had my crook. I remember when you got the crook, so... Yeah. It takes us a minute to... A little stomp. Right there.

11:27We do get the shed. But it takes us a few circles. That's a... The shed, it doesn't happen. Dad's going to pull off his little wizardry... Wizardry there with his crook, you know. Wiggle it in there and cast a spell. As Casey likes to say. Yep, yep. It worked. Yeah. There we go. It was... She took care of me through that run. That's one thing she could do. All right. I've got another one. I'm about to...

11:55You're about to go on. So, actually, this is a different place.

2021 Trial

11:59I'm going to show us two. Oh, wow. So, I added... I found... I found this just because we're going to have the Creek County. This is in 2021. Okay, this is our first trial after COVID. This is January 21. So, this is really early after trial season for COVID. It might have been December 2020. I don't remember. Yeah. No, it was... I think it was... It might have been January or February. We had people show up from all the way from Ohio. Yeah, we had pretty big...

12:30Because it was the first trial anybody put on, yeah. Really one of the first you put on after COVID. So, this was fully judged. If I do remember right. It was. It was brutal. This is Aslan winning. The car got second. We had four trials there. Two each day. The car got second twice. I won. One of these times Aslan beat it. I don't know if it was. I won it once. But, uh... Twice. I had the overall with him. Yeah. And the first day he gripped it out. That's how bad it was. So, this is day two.

13:01Susan was our judge. See the stand right there behind her. So, I chose this one. Found it online. Daddy dig this one up a little bit. Just for... Uh-huh. The representation of the arena we'll be at.

13:16We won't have those this week. We'll have better than some of those. This was our, uh... Make for what we had at the house. To practice on.

13:26Effective. Good cones down the middle.

13:32I'm trying to remember the sheet for this or... They were amenities. Yeah. They could mix amenities and ours. Yeah. But, overall, they worked pretty solid. They just did not want to go in pens. And they just did not want to go in pens. That was a... Kind of a narrow arena, that's for sure. It's not, like, super short. Yeah. Just not that wide. Good, straight, straight line. It's tougher to judge some of these because there's just not a ton of room. I feel one slip by. Yeah. I should have beat you because of that right there. A good tight turn.

14:05He's always so straight. These sheep are really forgiving right here, that's for sure. Or, like, really, they don't... Sometimes, some sheep in an arena would be a mess, but these work really well. I remember the weather wasn't... The weather was actually pretty good. It was actually nice. It wasn't super cold that week. It was 30s, 40s. Yeah. I remember if we did... It rained Sunday evening. I remember that. There we go, right? Probably walked right through. This was a pin with a gate on it, but there was no way to close that gate. It was just permanently quick.

14:37Yeah. Which is good because that's where you want the gate to be. The problem is you don't have, like, a rope on it or not. I don't think you're standing there. I like to have the rope. You reach all the way across and do it, but you need to dog off like Aslan can. Again, that little move right there. I'm going to rewind and show that again. Watch his move. I think I might have missed it. Right there. That's it. Yeah, I'll go back to it. Watch his little bit of shimmy. Just not going into the sheep. Just sliding over. And that's what does it.

15:07That's where you want to be. Don't want to push too much pressure on him. Just moving over. Changing where the pressure's at as opposed to adding more on him. And got a little heavy on him right there. He's wound up a little. This is hard. This was his... He struggled kind of in arenas because he... His nerves. He got it, but there's probably some points off there.

15:40I'm going to tell you. He's really slicing it. They have to look a little harder to try to find my run from then. I have a hard time believing he scored the 90s and beat me with that one. That's kind of cool. She was really nice on that shit. Yeah, yeah. She was really nice on that shit. Yeah. That's also one of the trials that helped you get to the national finals. That was this one. Because we had like 20 open dogs or something. It was actually like one of the largest opens we'd had in quite a while. We had two world team qualifiers and I don't remember how many finalists in that 27 runs.

16:11It was the toughest in an arena trial. It was a lot of people that were at the national finals that year with the dogs. A lot of really good handlers. Keep talking for a second. Did you have the Oklahoma City one? I don't think he does. Those ones are giving me some troubles. Oh, they are? Give me a second. I'm trying to follow some. Some of the old stuff. I have some others here. Which that goes to show you that people will run anywhere. And even then, back after COVID in 2021 at that point, it was one of the first trials in and around here. Ah, here we go.

Arena Theme

16:41I got to keep on the arena. I think we'll just do this today. Because I got several old ones. I got old ones here. With the arena theme. You got the one where T smacks the fence in the back. I recorded that. I don't think we recorded that one. I just want you to look here. Oh, that was fun. Let's look right here at what we might have. Oh, this is... Well, this one wasn't quite as good as the first one, if we're going to talk about it. Well, I don't know if I have the first one.

17:12This is as good as we'll get. Man. I mean, the second one wasn't as fast. You know, a little different. This is Fort Worth also taking place this week. We're not going with this one, obviously. But this is the trial that's happened. Oh, this was my first Barrett Mountain BC hat I'm wearing there.

17:30He's already ready to pin. Well, we couldn't leave around the pin. So, like, if I hang on to the rope, I'm not going to step too far away. Yeah, yeah. This is the one where Dad was deathly sick. At that four, we had zero sleep. Yeah. I don't remember. This is the first one I wanted to do it worth. This one Justin won that year. Yeah, I don't know if he wins this run. No. I think this was a quick run. It was like 2-0-8. It was quick, but it wasn't as quick. It was the first one, 1-24 or something like that. Yeah, it was the one. It helped the lane up after the first run. She had, like, a stinger or something getting out of the box on where we got here.

18:02And a slight lameness on the front end. So, this is purely... I'm just going to pause for a second to talk about... Speed. ...some of this. This is purely a speed trial, okay? Because everybody's finishing the course. It's not really a point in time. All the points are the same. For the most part, right? All the places are the same. So, it's purely a time trial of that. And the second time we went, the sheep were a little different. And so, it was a little tougher to get through. It takes some better dog work. But, this one wasn't...

18:34I mean, these sheep were just running through a little bit. And so, it was really speed. Justin was by far the fastest the first run. Did the whole course like a minute. Yeah, fast dog. It takes quick flanks. Yeah. And then the pin, you just like... They came up and just jumped. And they just jumped in. I prepped. I prepped for the pin and was set up for it. And they just said, we're not going to argue. Yeah. So, that's kind of what this was. Basically, during this course, they have two barrels. Yeah. They had a chute there on the side that you could see. You bring them through those two barrels to start. You just circle the pin. Yeah. You figure eight the barrels. And then you...

19:05Do you figure eight or just weave through? I don't remember. We're going to watch out here in a second. Figure eight. Then you go through the chute. Then you go through the pin. Boom. Done. Yeah. So, that's all you're trying to accomplish here. Do you feel there's any difference on like a fence or a wall versus the fence? Honestly, it's easier to work if they have an obstacle like that wire or whatever. However, it's really easy whenever it's on the fence because you just run them on the fence. Whenever it's out in the open, it's like you kind of got to... Because it's the... One thing that makes the laser maybe better, I don't know, better or worse for us is a

19:38lot of our dogs will go underneath obstacles and go underneath panels. Can't do that until like in an arena, they go under the wall to get out wide. Here, you can't do that. You got to just go under the wall, deal with that pressure. So, it could get a dog more excited. This is unlike Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City, you have to drive across the arena through two panels. So, that sheep from a distance can't see an opening. So, that's why you get a little... It makes it tough. This, when you come to the wide, they're coming down the fence so you can see an opening. Yeah. No, definitely.

20:08Because it is just looking right now, visually, all that white. Yeah. It'd be tough to see a whole lot if you're imagining yourself as a sheep here. All right, here we go. Yeah. Yeah, she wasn't pushing near as much this run as she was, though. All tens of fans we got there right now. Yeah. Maybe you were early in the day. This was later in the day. No, this was later in the day. This was the second run. Now, on that first run I had, there was a lot of people in the stands. It was in February. Yeah. So, you had to go around this panel. Go around that one. Figure eight.

20:40Yes. It around and underneath the other one. This is Spice, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. This is Spice. Oh, gee, dog. The one to get me in on all this.

20:51Moves well. Sheep are doing good here. Figure eight's it.

20:58I don't remember if I, I don't remember this run. I feel like I struggled or it just didn't go as fast. I don't think, you just didn't go as fast. Well, they're just walking as opposed to, they were, I mean, they were flying the first time. Yeah. Again, look where she's at right there. She's not behind them fully. You want to get that pressure into them and the fence, too. So.

21:25There it is. There it is. That's done. Quick, quick. Quick, quick. Boom, boom. That almost looked like the first one, but I don't know what's going on there. Let me get that up. I don't know what you got going on there. Some weird thing following yours. You're getting some weird suggestions. All right. Keep talking about it. I guess there's another one coming up. Yeah. So that was a, I mean, that's a fun trial. It's just a speed trial. So you're, it's luck of the draw. Yeah. You get runners and. I would go run it again. It was fun. That was right around COVID. That was before COVID.

21:55Yeah. No. We went 2019 is whenever I wanted. You guys went. Well, this is. Yeah. This is not the year after 2020, I guess. You guys went that. This was February. This was right before COVID, basically. And this is where it was. So COVID was. Yeah. 2020. This is right before COVID. Thank you. This was the same year we went. 2020. Uh, I think we went. 2019 I won. And then 2020 you guys went without me.

22:22A different angle here. We can look at it. Aslan. Working.

22:27See, you had to come between the barrels. You couldn't. On the fetch. On the fetch. You had to come between there. You'd lose points, I think. If I remember right of there. Of course, lay out.

22:39And the sheep. Yeah, you could. This is where you get luck of the draw. You can get some really polite here. You can get some really heavy.

22:47Good, healthy sheep. They were healthy.

22:52Judge right above, right there. It's a good view down here. Watched him move. Again, just subtle, subtle movements in the arena is all you really need. Add with that first. He just retired that shirt, I think. Yes. Yes, I did. Had it for years. Maybe we're going to the, you should go to the wall first, then, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta go. You had to pick either way, or you had to go this one way. You had to go that other way, because you had to line up to hit the shoe. So, it was a pattern of what you had to make. Oh, you had to play.

23:26Oh. And that's... Judge trial. Let's just go back just for a second. The judge trial, this is a big no-no. Like a 10-point deduction possibly right there. Yeah. But, like Dad said, he had some issues with the fence and the tightness of the sheep kind of looking at him, and then the fence pressure there, he wanted to blow by it instead of holding it. Got her to catch him. The judge tried to catch him and bring him back. Wrap him back around the way they can. I mean, you talk about rubbing the paint off that daggone barrel. There you go. Yeah.

23:56It was just a slow run. There was nothing.

24:01You know, had to be a little careful, because he would grab stuff when he got to the leap. It also looks at the point, you know, saying he doesn't really stop his dogs to a down a lot. And you can watch Aslan here. It's a stop, but it's never a full down. Yeah, yeah. Just keeping on his feet, trying to keep him going. Receptive to him. I don't like to overuse the down.

24:34It's not. We're getting back to that shoe.

24:38You can see how the draw makes a lot of difference on how quick times can be. I think you guys also said this year the sheep were just a lot heavier in general, so they weren't nearly as quick of a horse as they were the first time. The first time we went, I think it was just Dad and I ran. Uh-huh. I ran in a range. He ran in a range. But we basically just got in, because other people canceled out, and we were able to sneak in the last moment, show up, and pay at the trial, because we were like, hey, we can fill

25:08the spot.

25:10We haven't traveled a whole lot, really, to this point. Yeah. And back then, it's like, they used to have their entries were so far ahead, it's like, I didn't remember to put my entries in until it was already passed. Yeah. We were professionals, just... Now, now, we keep track of it, and tell Dad when to do it. Yeah. Or you enter Dad for him.

25:30All right, hold on, real quick. I just want to ask a question. I don't know. Uh-huh. I'll try to phrase it as we're doing this here. What was the thought process? Right here? Grabbing the rope shorter. Oh, well, I was just walking over towards him. I don't know why. Okay. Because you're afraid he's going to grab something. I was thinking he was fixing to grab something, because he... Because he kind of loosened up a little bit, but like, you walk in and grab the rope tight, and then... Yeah.

25:57Again, look at you do your job right there. Okay, that's a good example of a good, tough pin. I'm going to rewind just a little bit. So, watch how you push him towards you. You're a wall, okay? And then you finally get them to look in, and then we're golden now. And the good news is she obviously hadn't learned that they could just duck between you and the rope. So, at least it worked as a panel for you. Oh, I don't know where we were. Looks like Kelly's.

26:26I guess we could just see if you want. Move in the next one. Yeah, might as well.

Old Videos

26:30Let's see. This is our house. This is back when we had the calves. Yeah. There's T. Dale. Yeah, working our calves back here. I spotted them for you.

26:44And then through a sheep course here. Aslan wasn't the best cattle dog. He'd won 4A into it, right? Yeah, we won Bob Rose trial. Oh, yeah. You won Bob Rose. We didn't go to that one. The highest score I'd ever got is a judge trial. It had a 98 and a 99. And that was our cattle, by the way. 98, I tied with Kevin Lippey in 99. That'd be Kevin Lippey by one. All right, we'll get back to our arena theme.

27:15It just happened to pop up there while we're... Oh, I must be the guy filming that. Well, as I was trying to... As I was spotting... That's true. ...you were... And Dad was running. Kind of the only option. Kind of the only option. Obviously, Spice was doing her little army crawl out there to try to go through them. Yeah. That's what happens. Because she would try to do that. You didn't pay attention. She'd just be crawling her way closer to the sheep or the stalk as somebody else was going.

27:48And you weren't paying attention. Because we didn't have like... I don't even know we had the trailer up there at that point. I don't think we did. I don't think we did. We didn't put them in. We didn't have the bleachers. It was literally... We were just up there. We had like dog boxes to put them in. You'll be really happy to see this one, Justin. We've upgraded. Very happy to see this one. I don't know if I'll ever be happy. Oh, this is... The winning run. I found it. I'm going right way back in the... The way back is... The way back is right here. They've seen her there. 2021. Was this 2019, 2020?

28:20It's a question after the end. Okay.

28:26I think it's 2020. It's now filming the same age. This is Steve. We got her from Steve. And Steve is here. They're coming quick. They come off that.

28:36But you want some of these trials. We'll be moving fast. This is the pace of this. You get a short line. The last one. It was tight. But this one's just a lot more brisk right now. Yeah. She's also a little more flushing. A little, but not really. You should turn them back that way. Yeah. We had to go back across. So it's kind of a... You had to...

28:56Even with this little mistake here. He still is by far the fastest. I mean, it was crazy how fast it was. Yeah.

29:08Yeah. Time is... It was just wait, wait, wait. I think they're far enough that if I send her, they'll break around. And I think you're like... That was my thought. Like I was just... This is, I think, really smart on your part here. Especially because you had to handle a ton at this point. You're like, I don't care. I'm going to overflank a little bit just to be fast. And correct. Let her overflank and push them a little bit as she's flanking. Because she's kind of cut a little bit. So I let her do some stuff to help be a little faster. I think he's smart. In experience. This is his first open run. Yeah.

29:39This is your first ever open run, isn't it? He won. Yeah, yeah. I think so. Come back inside the barrel. Look at them. They see... Hey, this was actually... Pretty good. Brilliant on Justin earlier. So I'm pretty sure they're going to run straight through there. He set that up with the bottle earlier. They know where the hole is now. And so by doing that, it's kind of smart. Like sometimes on a tee, especially with sheep, like we've done them before at trials

30:09where they're really hard to get to, get the sheep to come out the middle. But if you take the sheep in the middle and then they let them out at the end and then turn them back... Yeah. Now they know where that is. They'll just turn and go through there. So sometimes it's a strategy you don't think about if that makes sense. Yeah. And we've done that before. Yeah. So. But if you watch it, it's like I set up a lot to kind of cover... I mean, look at... Let them go. Here's the speed right here. This is where it's tough. They're coming at a bad angle. Yeah. And they just... They just go in.

30:41Nobody's sheep were pinning that well that day. Yeah. There was no really... There was a struggle to pin and that was the first good pin. And I mean, it was like bang. And all of a sudden, the entire crowd erupted with the flaws. I was like, oh, I didn't realize there wasn't that many people in here. So that minute and 20... See, that one was 2019. Yeah. It was 2019.

31:00So I'm going back to the other ones. I got a few others. So what you're saying is I've been an open handler for seven years now. Yeah. Yeah. That was your very first open run and you won it. Yeah. I mean, well, you can't get luckier than that. That's what we said. Justin has the luck of the Irish. I am Irish. Oh my goodness. I've got some... Some real gems here. I'll just show a couple more of them. I've got a couple real gems. I don't know how good this one's going to be. It's on a GoPro. That's a touch. Oh.

31:31Wait. With a dog on a GoPro? With a sheep on a GoPro? Just on a pen. Yeah. Just in the pen. Okay. That's going to be interesting. You're showing some... You're getting in the default here of stuff. Yeah. I'm going to actually show this one too. Dad mentioned it earlier. So, why not give it to him? It's an arena trial. It can fit in the description for the day. Arena trials are all about... Like, this is Judge. So, it's a little different. We were not prepared for the mud in this trial.

32:02Muck. Okay, Dad. I have to say this. Are we ever prepared for any trial that we go to in Missouri? This one, I definitely was not prepared. Yeah. This was at Bob Rose. And I'm wearing tennis shoes. Or, no, it was in my work boots. Forest. Forest.

32:18Getting good. Straight. Left. These sheep working a lot. These calves working like sheep. Yeah. Yeah, they did. They're good calves. So, one thing, again, switching back and forth. On calves, you want to focus more on the heads. It's kind of what you're turning back to back. So, Aslan kind of moving back and back. Like, back to back. Side to side like he does. Kind of wearing a little bit. It's actually really, really good on these calves. They're softer. Yeah. You got a jacket on, and you got boots on, or at least two. Yeah, but it was, I didn't have a boot train in Accenture. I just didn't want to walk around there too much, because it was really deep, pretty deep

32:50mud. Once you get out of that little area there. Yeah, which was thinking about, like, Aslan. That guy, you probably wanted to help him. He hadn't ran cattle very much. He's like, I can't. Yeah. I'm not moving to help him. Yeah.

33:02He'll have to figure it out. And these were really good, unless you got into them, and then it was over. There was a lot of people who got into them a little bit, and didn't finish them. Who was the judge for this? Danny. Danny Schilling. Danny Schilling. Yeah. If you let him turn this. That would have been also a great person to have interviewed, just with the stories. Yeah, all the stories. Him and Bob and all that crew would have been. Yeah, that would have been great. Yeah.

33:28Look at the view there. We turned this tight. Most of them went well wide, and over, behind the calves there, by the. Because we don't want to have half to get too close on this fence, I think. To turn them before they get to that fence real tight as good.

33:45There we go. This is where we're working on an arena with calves. It's a little bit more possibility to judge, because they don't move fast, typically. So you have the ability to kind of judge it a little bit easier. The sheep can get flying in some runs. Don't worry about it, the cattle can too, but typically you're not seeing. This is a very tight little game. They're like, panels are way bigger than the whole. Yeah, they did make it pretty tight, yeah. He nailed it, because it wasn't ton of room, so he nailed it really good.

34:12He kind of gets you to their tails, and able to turn them there a little bit. These are very nice calves. He has a beautiful turn. Beautiful turn. I could say he's a little low right now. Well, the cattle could be a little bit more forgiving. He's coming right back in the middle. I'm not sure if we have to go to those. I think he was running an open ranch in this, and they didn't want us to drive the other panels. So now he's bringing it back to the PA. Yeah, I think so. This was, I mean, 2018 even, maybe? It could be. I was running T here at this. Yeah. In the cattle.

34:43The next year, I think I took Nova, and we qualified her for the finals. And it wasn't this wet. I don't think you ever took Nova there. Yeah, yeah. That's where I qualified her for her first finals was at this trial. Not this trial, but the year after. Yeah, yeah. This trial. His car was too old for nursery then. See, he got into it. Got into them a little bit right there.

35:07But that's going to happen with cattle. You're going to have to have some of those every once in a while. So I thought... He's really good at staying with them there, not being too... So I thought we were going to get in trouble. So you struggle, you want to get along the fence. But sometimes it's a little... A lot of people have trouble getting them off the fence, and we eventually get them off the fence. Yeah, sometimes the best way to defeat a problem is just not to face the problem. So we turned them off the fence. Yeah, turned them off the fence there. Aslan is a better cattle dog than I remember.

35:37Actually hung in there pretty good with these suckers on that deal there. Yeah. Maybe that's where Tater gets it from.

35:46Look at that good turn.