S03E17 - Derrel Sims // The Alien Hunter

Introduction

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Monday Introduction

0:55Boom, it's Monday. 2020, people. What's happening? We live in the future. Yeah, the future's tight, right? Pretty cool. What I'm excited for about the future is being able to have deeper conversations about potential extraterrestrial life that exists within the cosmos. That's what we're going to do today, man. Some seriously gnarly stuff today. It's not often you get to speak with an ex-CIA operative about stuff like this.

1:28Right, right. Also, just very nice guy, and I said it in last week's episode, but I mean, kind of like Walker, Texas Ranger of the extraterrestrial space, right? I'm just a big fan, and to tip the proverbial hat to Mr. Sims, I have fashioned my own mustache. It looks terrific, dude. You look super sharp. Yeah, it's a little push broom action going on. It's one of the nice things about being an adult that you can just do, and you know, you've got a wonderful lady in your life who lets you do those sorts of things without thinking you're unattractive anymore, you know?

2:01I don't know about the latter, but she still lets me do it. She still lets me do it. I think it looks terrific. I appreciate that.

Sponsor Introduction

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Previous Episode Recap

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Previous Episode Recap

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Great Courses Plus

3:56So, let me ask you this, man.

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Daryl Sims Introduction

9:06You will not be disappointed. So let's talk about today's show, man. We got Daryl Sims coming on to Lost Origins. This guy, affectionately referred to as the alien hunter, not just because of the television show that also went by that name, but this guy, straight up, when I say Walker, Texas Ranger of the extraterrestrial investigation space, that is him in a nutshell. Like the hat, the mustache, the drawl. The guy is just so cool. I'm so excited to pick his brain today.

9:36And this guy has had one hell of a journey. I mean, he talks about in several different interviews that he's done online or on different podcasts or different speaking engagements, like he's had experiences with extraterrestrial abductions since he was a kid. And that is like sent him on this path of investigating it, figuring out what the hell's going on. And, you know, that's what created the alien hunter. Yeah, and I think like, you know, so many people out there sometimes feel alone or feel like there aren't enough paranormal investigators who are really listening or really digging in or digging deep.

10:12And it's nice to have somebody with this level of, you know, senior military police officer experience, you know, covert operations. Like this guy is not a small time investigator. He's a pretty serious hitter in the space. You said pioneer straight up, right? Like this guy has discovered the alien implant phenomenon and he's pioneered several research protocols. To date, he has been at the helm of coordinating 24 different surgeries to extract these alien implants. We're definitely going to need to pick his brain on those today.

10:42We're talking about alien fluorescence. Like all these different aspects that we don't normally think about when we are like contemplating extraterrestrial existence within, you know, our waking life. It's really, really interesting stuff. I know we got a ton of questions. Let's get this man on the horn.

Daryl Sims Interview

11:01Let's do it.

Daryl Sims Interview

11:01All right, Daryl, welcome to this week's episode of Lost Origins. It's awesome to have you on the show with CK and myself today. Thank you for carving time for us today, man. It's going to be awesome. I'm looking forward to it. You guys are really awesome. So let's rock and roll. We appreciate that. We appreciate that. But, you know, we're just two nerds doing the nerd thing. You're the one out there, boots on the ground, making this stuff happen, man. So we're excited to pick your brain.

11:32So thank you. Rock and roll. That's what I'm after here. So let's start with the background history lesson, right? We always like to make sure that when we have a guest come on the show for the first time, we give them the opportunity to hit us with some backstory, some context, you know, for the folks out there in the audience who maybe have not seen your work, read your books, seen your different television series and whatnot. Give us the background lesson there, right? Daryl, who are you? I know that you've spent some time, a significant amount of time as a senior military police officer,

12:04ex-covert operations. You've got some work that you've done for the CIA for several years. Walk us through, like, just the day in the life. What got you to this moment today, Daryl? What got me to this moment in time is something strange happened to me when I was four years old in Midland, Texas. Back then in 1952, nobody knew what an alien was or anything like that. It was just unheard of in every sense of the word, and there was something in my room.

12:36I sat up. I didn't wake up. It was like I was switched on, and I sat up in my little bed and noticed there was a skinny little guy walking toward the wall. I did not know at the time that he was—I had just come through the wall with him, and he had brought me back, put me in bed so that I wouldn't remember anything back through the wall, and I saw it at that point, and I had no idea that he was going to walk through the wall, and I thought he's going to bump into the wall. And at that point, apparently, he heard my thoughts because he turned around, and I heard

13:10something for the first time in my head I'd never heard.

13:14I heard him speak in my head with his own little voice, and he said, it's awake. Now, there was only two people in the room, and I assume he wasn't the it he was talking about. So, long story short, I just didn't know what to do. I mean, that was my first event at age four, and I had approximately 10 events over the next 13 years. My events ended violently in 1973, 13 years later, when I was 17 years old, and I didn't

13:52have any events after that, except for one when I was—my son was six years old, and I woke up very suddenly, again, like I was switched on, ran through the house and found my son standing at the back door that had just brought him back, and that changed my life forever from a—literally a victim to somebody that hunted the alien. I hunt them that hunted me, and later hunted my son, and I still do.

14:25Okay, holy hell. Yeah. I have all the questions. This is—man, where do we start? Okay, so you said that you, like, you sat up like you were switched on. Help me understand that feeling a little bit, Daryl. Is that like when you wake up in the middle of the night in that weird in-between awake, in-between sleep state, or did you, like, you were fully awake, fully conscious. You knew where you were, all the things, but it was just like, boom, all of a sudden you're there. Try to explain that feeling for me, if you could.

14:56The experience, for me, is—it's literally like being switched on, like you're off, and all of a sudden you're on, like turning a radio on. The radio doesn't warm up or have to think about, you know, what happened. It just gets turned on. Sure. And I later realized that that's actually an ability that you can do during an abduction. You can—when they turn you off, you can turn yourself right back on if you want to. They don't know that you're not doing—you're doing that or not. The point is that that skill has actually developed, and even when I was in surgery,

15:32the—under general anesthesia, I woke up in a hospital on anesthesia with Dr. Albina, and I realized something was wrong again, and I opened my eyes, and I mean, I was wide awake asking— Spring is here, and look at you. You're still stressed. Allow me to introduce the all-new Acora Plunge Collection, designed to combine performance, durability, and elegance, and available in 15 or 19 feet. It's perfect for training, cooling off, or dramatically floating while rethinking your

16:02life choices. And remember, every spa comes loaded, covered, cover lifts, steps, chemical kit, and delivered right to your spot. You just sit, you just soak, and you forget everyone's name. Dynasty Spas, exit 49 in Athens. Online, DynastySpaStore.com. Question is like, who's the other doctor? Because he wasn't supposed to be in there, and he had subbed out to work to someone else. So the idea of being switched on is just like a radio. It's just like all of a sudden the switch gets turned on. Either you do it or they do it, and you're completely aware.

16:34It's just like you're starting, again, exactly where the switch is turned on. Yep. It's not a matter of waking up or any of this hypnogonic or hypnoproponic states. Anything like that, it is nothing like that. Yeah, you're not groggy. You're not foggy. Yeah, you're not working through all the morning stuff, needing the coffee. It's just like, boom. It's there. That's exactly right. That's intense. So you're four years old at this time, Daryl. I mean, I have a few fleeting memories from when I was four years old.

17:06And they're just like tiny little glimpses. But to have that kind of recall at that age, man, that must have just been like a powerful, powerful experience. And rightfully so, right? The way you explain it. So when this creature in your room is communicating and you can hear it via your mind, telepathically, whatever we want to call it, do you have any insider memories as to who he was communicating with? Do you remember anything about where they took you or anything like that?

17:38Or is it just when you're turned on, turned back on, I guess, that's it. That's the beginning of the timeline in your memory. Well, they gave us, they gave, especially back then, very specific orders not to, you will not remember anything. And as the event progressed on, I was not afraid. I was sitting up. I was not paralyzed. I wasn't afraid. I was just stunned when he turned around. I saw his large black eyes were perfectly round an inch and a half across, not like the

18:10Hollywood version of aliens you see today on TV. And the entity was stunning to me because I noticed as he didn't have any clothes on, it was wintertime. I thought, good night. It's like that's going to freeze to death. So as he turned around, I was stunned. First of all, as I looked from his large black eyes down and I noticed he didn't have a belly button. And I also, after that, noticed he didn't have any genitalia.

18:40They had no clothes on at all. So I couldn't figure out if I've got a TT and why doesn't he, I've got a belly button. Why doesn't he? And after years of investigations, when you think about stuff like that, you realize if you don't have genitalia, you don't proprime. Asexual, yeah. If you don't have a navel, you weren't born. You were hatched, cloned, made or manufactured. That's how you got here. You didn't get here the way we did. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. That's okay.

19:11So now I have more questions. You keep leading me down the rabbit hole. It's awesome. I love it. So you said that over the course of the next, what, 13 years, you had several additional experiences like this. I mean, so I guess two part question here first is, were they similar experiences that you had? Were they different? And then the second part would be, you know, why like the recurring experiences, do you think that it's like an ongoing like observation of just like the chosen one in that moment,

19:43a random person that they're looking to gain insight on? Or like, have you, I'm sure you've spent a ridiculous amount of time digging into that. Can you unpack that for us? I certainly can. And you guys will find this, I think, fairly interesting. The same guy that got me the first night, he is generally, I refer to them as your handler. He's the one that's going to be there every time. If there were a million of them lined up and they all look the same, you could pick him out of the whole boot, the whole bunch easily.

20:13And the fact is, the next major time I saw him, I was coming out of a little outhouse using the bathroom late in the evening in Mayhill, New Mexico. I mean, when I was like six years old, excuse me, that's not correct, nine years old in the third grade. And as I shut the door, walking back to the house, there he was standing there behind the

20:44door. And of course, I was just stunned. You know, I recognized him instantly. And of course, you're gone. The next day, that was on a Friday. The next day was a Saturday morning. And I was out there and I love animals. I've rescued more animals than most people have ever seen in their life. And I mean that literally. Wow. And my family's done the same thing. Rescued a Bengal tiger, the giant 18 foot pythons and birds of all kinds, any kind of animal you can imagine, even exotics.

21:16We've rescued a lot. My daughter's still doing that in Scotland to this day. But the point is that the next morning, I was out, like I said, in third grade, killing grasshoppers. I was pulling the heads off of them as fast as I could, hundreds of them. And I asked myself, question, why am I doing this? I love animals and insects. Why am I killing these little harmless bugs? And I put one of them next to my eye and I looked at him very closely and I realized that's the wrong insect.

21:47What do you mean by that? The insect was a praying mantis. Well, okay. So. That was who I was really upset with. So that's the guy I saw the night before. Wow. That's super heavy. So if I can shift the question just a little bit, Daryl, you've mentioned about how, you know, years later, what was it? 1973, I think you said. You go out and you see your son near the back door and now he's a part of this ongoing observation, you know, experience, whatever we're going to, we're going to point to it

22:22as far as naming convention goes. That had to be like, I mean, I'm a father. CK is a father. We know what that's like to, you know, always just be Papa Bear through and through. So, like, I also fully understand the shift in your perspective of becoming, you know, the hunter of those who hunted you. Why do you think, have you been able to piece it together? Why it became a next of kin type of observation? Was it because it started with you and they wanted to continue this? Maybe it's a genetic observation.

22:52Like, what are your thoughts there, Daryl? Our statistics for you guys show that these entities are, in our opinion, interested in the, literally the genealogy of the individuals. And our statistics show that 45% of the people taken would be Native American, Indian, Irish. Okay.

23:20The, if they've taken one of you, like you, yourself, your child, or anything else, or CK's child, it's pretty evident they either got you or some other relative in the family. They don't need everybody. Okay. It's rare, but in our case, they got three of the boys in our family. Some cases, they get all the girls in the family, but that's very rare. Usually, it's only one person, and that's basically it in a generation.

23:50They don't have to have everybody.

23:54So, it's like a big enough sample pool to get the information that they need, and then they move on to the next sample group, almost? I hate using that term when we're describing human beings, but, in your family specifically, but is that a correct understanding of it? Well, I think another way to look at it is they're interested in your genealogy, that particular lineage, and they don't, we personally are not important or relevant to them in any

24:24sense of the word, we are just, even your thinking is referred to by them as an infestation. Interesting. They, you, if you had to listen to the alien's description of humanity, you would not like it. They are, they have no use for you except other than what they're supposed to do in the events. But, 45% of the people taken would be Native American Indian, Irish, Celtic, or Scottish, and we found this consistent worldwide.

24:57The Turks told me when I went there years ago in 2000, in 2006, that my work was wonderful except for one flaw. And I said, what's that? And they said, well, we're, we're in Turks. We're not Native American. And I said, the stats are correct. And they assured me that I was wrong. One of their professors came from Enkira, the capital, to the United States, did DNA testing on certain Northern Native American tribes, and then literally went down and did the DNA testing on the Turks.

25:30And to his shock and amazement, everybody's shocked, they found the Turks are Native American Irish, Native American Indian, and Turk. Genetic, genetic connection there. Wow, wow, wow. Man.

25:44Yeah, my mind is just like racing right now. So, we definitely went full rip right out of the gate. I want to take like one step back, Daryl, just to like hit us with a little bit more context here, okay? So, you're the head of the HUFON, the Houston UFO Network, and you've presented at conferences like Contact in the Desert. You've appeared in several televisions. You've appeared in several TV series, including Uncovering Aliens. But before we jump into your personal experiences, could you share with our listeners the primary focal points of your research?

26:16The primary area that I delve into is several layers. The first layer, which is the most obvious and the most looked at, I think, is the physical evidence that I gather. I have the largest collection of actual physical evidence in the world among abductees or contactees or anybody else, I think. And a lot of that evidence entails also the alleged alien implant. And we've conducted 25 surgeries worldwide, the last case being in India, where we have literally uncovered some pretty remarkable evidence.

26:54And that's pretty much my hallmark, I think, for most people. So, I mean, there's also genetic testing, different things that you guys are making connections with, like the Turkish example that you gave us.

27:05Man, so the television series, I mean, what was, for our listeners who maybe have not consumed that, is that really what the focal point of the show is? Are these implants and trying to get to the bottom of what we're looking at and working with here? Or was it a different premise altogether? The Uncovering Aliens TV show that we did was primarily interested in cases and physical evidence, of course, in which we did uncover some physical evidence of alleged two, a couple of cases of UFOs that may have expelled some matter

27:39and that was tested and showed to be extraterrestrial in origin. So that was kind of an important deal. But right now, we're working with a production company to develop the Alien Hunter series, a TV series, in which all my actual cases personally will be shown. Wow. Wow. That's, I mean, that's super exciting stuff. I mean, anytime you can tie a visual component to it, it always helps people, you know, understand what we're discussing.

28:11So I think, as far as your work is concerned, that's definitely a conducive medium to explaining what you're seeing and touching and working with here, right? So you've spent a significant amount of time researching abductions and alien implants. Before we discuss the ocular alien implants specifically, I was hoping you could share with the audience some of the evidence that you've uncovered around abductions and implants. You know, what are a few scenarios that you can break down for us that you just can't explain any other way? Certainly. One of the big complaints from the so-called science community, Dr. Susan Clancy at Harvard, Dr. Susan Blackmore in England is an example,

28:51is that all these experiences are strictly 100% hallucination, or they are simply just the idea of that we're having sleep paralysis. And that's really the answer. And when I talked to CNN about that, they asked me if I would debate that issue. And I said, certainly. And I said, but I already win. They said, but the debate hadn't started. I said, I already win. They said, why do you think that is? And I said, because sleep paralysis is predicated on the assumption that you're asleep.

29:2460% of the cases in the United States of people are wide awake driving down the highway or doing something effective. Right. It's higher. It's 90 some percent in Brazil. So I win 60 to 90 percent of the argument before we ever get started, because you don't have sleep paralysis while you're driving down the highway or talking or eating food or whatever, unless you've got narcolepsy or something like that. So that's number one. Number two is when you come back from your sleep paralysis, if that's what you want to call it, with a scoop mark, an implant inside you that turns out to be extraterrestrial in origin,

30:04and it has no explanation biologically or metallurgically, I think that's a pretty good case that you're absolutely 100% wrong. Sure. How'd that go over? Uh, they, they rewired the, uh, the interview and, uh, made it look like that I, I, uh, they, they cut most of that out. They wouldn't even put that part in there. Sure, sure. They just redid. It's CNN is who it was. I call them fake news for a good reason. Sure. And now I cannot, I will not give them an interview of any kind for any reason.

30:38And I won't in the future. Yeah, yeah. I hate to cut us short real fast, but we do need to take a quick break. So, more from Daryl Sims, after the break. Spring is here, and look at you. You're still stressed. Allow me to introduce the all-new Acora Plunge Collection.

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Ocular Alien Implants

31:45All right, welcome back to this week's episode of Lost Origins. If you're just tuning in, man, are we having one hell of a conversation with our new friend, Daryl Sims. And before the break, we were talking about so many different things. His career with the CIA, just his background with extraterrestrial investigation and encounters. And we need to just jump right back in. So, Daryl. So, the interview aside, Daryl, tell me a little bit about these implants. Again, let's punt on the ocular alien implants specifically.

32:18But, like, have you been able to see common themes as far as, like, where within the human body these implants are placed? And then when they're extracted, you know, what kind of, like, technology are we looking at here? Have we been able to reverse engineer it at all to find out what the impetus is? Break us down on what you've seen specifically in that, right? Well, first of all, I think it would be important for your audience to understand that implants are extremely rare. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care what you read on the Internet. It's wrong.

32:48It's wrong simply because, number one, I discovered it in 1960. And, number two, we've done 25 surgeries worldwide on the phenomena. So, we probably have a pretty good clue as to what's going on with them. And the second thing is it's easier to describe what the implant isn't for the audience. Number one, it is not a tracking device. If that were true, it was a tracking device, how did they find you to put a tracking device in you? Sure, sure.

33:19So, they probably find you with a neural print anyway. So, it doesn't make any sense. They're following the genetics. Number two is that it's not a transponder. It's not giving off information. And here's a big one.

33:35Two hundred students asked me to speak at John Muir Medical Hospital on medical complications of alleged alien human contact, specifically implants. That was in 1994 before we performed the first surgery anywhere. And I made four predictions there. All of those predictions came exactly, correctly true. And you say, well, so what's so unusual about that? Well, medically, they were incorrect. They were impossible. One of them was, if these objects that I'm showing you on x-ray and MRI and CAT scans here are really alien in origin, there will be no discernible form of technology present.

34:14Interesting. A lot of people have a problem with that. Second is that it would be attached to a nerve supply that would be separate. And third, that it would be, in fact, the object would have a biological cocoon around it that was not native to that part of the body. And you can just imagine the eyes moving around of these doctors when they heard all that. Well, during the first surgery, all of that came to pass, every bit of it.

34:45That was medically proven to be totally true. The big mistake most people have with the alien is they try to apply human technology or human anything to them. That is a huge mistake. They don't think like you. They don't act like you. They live in a structured system that's so different than humans understand. They can't even, we can't even grasp it. In other words, when I finally became paralyzed when I was a little boy, after the alien finally decided to come close to me, I later found out he transferred his fear to me.

35:24They live in a society we can barely even grasp. And we keep applying human values to them that are simply not even accurate. Yeah, I think it's dangerous in general, right? I mean, you can't, it's not an apples to apples scenario. That's like comparing apples to abacus, right? It's not, one thing is not the other there. I mean, that's, that's very, very well said. So that's correct. You had also mentioned that, you know, when, when you had made these predictions, Daryl, you had said we would not be able to have any sort of detection method as it relates to their technology.

35:58Um, I, I definitely understand what, where you're going there and it's because, you know, as humans, a, we're projecting our understanding of technology, uh, onto them as to what they would be viewing as technological or what they would be using to achieve a thing. But, but two, we probably can't even parse the way in which they're approaching something like that. I'm, I'm tracking you correctly, right? That's correct. Uh, I think that, uh, and you, you guys are asking the question. So, uh, one of the big, one of the big things that when we're writing the book on implants, uh, my surgical nurse was my partner in writing it.

36:36And, uh, she said, we need a, uh, a, a zinger for chapter 12. That's what he means. She said something that really grasps people's thinking. And I said, okay. Um, she says, give me a good zinger. And I said, do aliens have implants? Like aliens themselves also have implants? Yeah. She, she said, oh my God, that's, that's incredible. What a great question. And then she thought for a minute and says, do they?

37:06So do you mean like, like tethering themselves to us almost like they are implants? Wait, say that again. They are the biggest collection of implants in a biological form. And some of them in a biomechanical form you've ever seen. And they are made, hatch, cloned and manufactured for the purpose of interaction with mankind to convince you that they're aliens from other planets. They may or may not be.

37:37Okay. So let's unpack that one. So first of all, I just want to know like, okay, why, why are they trying to convince us that they're from another planet? Is it because it's actually not another planetary system? It's actually a multidimensional entity that, you know, let's just start there. I'm not even going to like rip through all the questions. Okay. The, um, there, uh, let me see if I can help your audience. Uh, this is, this is original thinking here. This is not something you're going to read on the internet anywhere.

38:09Yeah. Do you do that? If you did, then if you are at somebody copying something I've said at a conference and I just came back to my European tour this week, uh, started in the UK, ended up in, uh, uh, Cosinza, Italy, the next conference, and then in Istanbul, Turkey, and then Gobekli Tepli, where I just finished some research there. But the point is, what I told them is that, um, most people don't have implants and they, they, they don't and they won't. And, um, I said, it's important for you to understand that if, because people who write this on the internet just are, they're scaring people.

38:48And I said, if you've been close to an alien, you have already been close to a UFO or in a UFO, you're already programmed. It's already done. The implants were a totally different program and it has nothing to do with what everybody else is going through, so to speak. So, number one, if you look at the alien, uh, and I'll, I have a chart, which I call the usual suspects. Okay. And in a long, short version, uh, you have, um, the little gray alien, which everybody seems to know well from TV.

39:23He, he's got an IQ about, uh, about, uh, 80, which is called a moron in our society. Sure. Um, and everybody said, well, you're, you're disparaging them. I said, no, I'm not. I'm telling you an eyewitness account. I said, even Bud Hopkins, before he passed away, uh, quoted me one night in a conversation and he says, there's a dumb, they can't even put your clothes on right. Uh, he wasn't far off from that one. He, there, that was, that's true.

39:53People will often come back with each other's clothes on from an event, two or three or four people get taken. Sometimes they'll be wearing each other's socks or shoes or because they put your clothes on wrong whenever they, they reclose you. I've also heard stories of like clothes being put on backwards, right? Like my, the shirt's on backwards. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's exactly correct. One little girl came back with an army guy's field jacket. Yeah. That, that probably doesn't fit. That was her clothing. Uh, but the second one is a doctor type.

40:23He looks just like the gray alien, but he's about a foot taller and he is the boss. He's got an IQ about 140. He's really smart. And if there's any implantation or surgical, anything done on you or harm done to you, it's usually him that's going to do it. Then the next guy is a, a reptile looking creature. And he's usually the boss. He's pretty, pretty rough, often very sexual, uh, pretty mean with, with people. Then the next one is, uh, uh, and again, let me, let me unpack this one for you.

40:57Yeah, please. Where would you get DNA for, let's say a reptile, probably not Pluto or Neptune. You might find all kinds of reptiles on planet earth. Right. So where would you get the DNA for say a praying mantis? Like I encountered at age nine, probably not on Saturn. Right. Probably on planet earth. We have actually hundreds of species of, uh, of these creatures. And if you go on further, you say, well, the Nordic types, a human like one, he's really friendly or whatever you want to say about him.

41:33Uh, well, the big question is, uh, again, you put your cop hat on and it's, it's different than a UFO hat. UFO hat tends to believe anything. And the cop hat tends to analyze things carefully. Where would you get Nordic DNA? Like the blonde haired. Spring is here and look at you. You're still stressed. Allow me to introduce the all new Acora plunge collection designed to combine performance, durability, and elegance and available in 15 or 19 feet. It's perfect for training, cooling off, or dramatically floating while rethinking your life choices.

42:04And remember, every spa comes loaded, covered, cover, lift, steps, chemical kit, and delivered right to your spot. You just sit, you just soak, and you forget everyone's name. Dynasty Spas, exit 49 in Athens. Online, dynastyspastore.com. Blue-eyed alien everybody seems to like so well. Probably from, I'm guessing here, but maybe Norway. Yeah, I feel like that's, that's a solid guess. That's probably a fairly good guess. And where would you get, uh, Bigfoot DNA? Uh, well, uh, there are plenty of ape species here on the planet, and a DNA test was done recently in Texas, and they examined the DNA, and they found two things.

42:45Number one, it was a simian, which, no big secret there, it's an ape-like creature. The second thing they found confirmed my thesis. They found mitochondrial DNA, a woman's DNA, modern woman DNA, in Bigfoot.

43:02How do you get modern woman DNA inside Bigfoot? Well, you can do that with a process called transgenics. Sure. We're mixing the DNA of two different species. Yeah, it's like the fusion of the genetic code there, correct? Yes. Wow.

43:20So, okay, I'm trying to figure out which, which path to go down here, because there's so many that we can go. So, I want to make sure that we work through, uh, the ocular alien implant question real quick. We can do that. Okay. So, we're going to kind of put a pin in this, but it'll all make sense in true Quentin Tarantino fashion. We're going to come full circle, so bear with me here. So, let's do the thing. Let's talk about ocular alien implants. I found this fascinating as hell, Daryl. I was doing research online, reading through your work, and this was a piece that I just kept coming back to, and it blew my mind.

43:52So, I want to read a quote from an explanation regarding a woman who was involved in a double mass abduction in 1992, I think. Also, that's a gnarly day for the folks involved there. Um, so basically, the quote is as follows. The object underwent testing by the University of Houston, which revealed a ceramic-like exterior and a cushioned interior that, according to the scientist, quote-unquote, housed something. What baffled him was the unique combination of eight elements never found in a naturally occurring state together and never, ever manufactured together.

44:27How could this be? How could this object have come from a woman's eye? Okay, whoa, where do we start? Um, let's do the deep dive here, Daryl. Just break us off on all the things. What are ocular alien implants? What is the impetus for these devices if we know that? Um, how many of them have been removed from abductees? Is this the implant from all 25 surgeries or extractions that you've done? Is it only a percentage of the implants that you guys have seen? Essentially, all the things, um, uh, just, just blow the minds real quick.

45:01Implants are, uh, a rare commodity among the alien. Uh, and again, like I said, people who want to sell books and things are, uh, trying to scare people to making everybody think they have implants. It's just simply not the case. Sure. Um, I look at hundreds of x-rays every year and the majority of them do not have anything substantial to indicate an implantation. However, if we, uh, look at the ocular implant as an illustration, they, where an implant is located is, is really very telling.

45:33And the ocular implant was attached in the eye in some way. We think that it housed a biological camera. Okay. They got the camera, whatever it was, out, but they made a mistake and didn't get the implant. It fell out the next morning after the abduction in front of the lady's boss. And the lady kept trying to sweep it off into the, uh, little tiny, it's about the size of a grain of sand. She kept trying to sweep it off into the carpet from her table. And the boss kept telling her, don't touch it. I want to see that.

46:03And she said, that to me, uh, is significant. And I want you to take it to that alien hunter guy that friend of yours, you introduced me to the other day. And she says, uh, no, I don't want to do that. I want to just, just get rid of it. And, uh, this is something that abductees are programmed to do. And that's destroyed their own evidence. And you see this all the time. And that's why she was kept trying to sweep it off into the carpet. And, uh, finally, her boss said, no, I want you to, she put it inside a little one of those, uh, containers for a film container.

46:42He said, you take it to that investigator. I'm going to call him. And if he didn't get it, you're fired. Boom. Your job terminated on the spot. She said, he told me about you guys, how you destroy your own evidence and how you are doing it. You're programmed to do that. So she did bring it to me. And that's where we, when it went to the university of Houston, had electron microscopy done. They did their, their particular little minor analysis.

47:09And so when you guys are looking at these, uh, eight elements that have never been found to naturally occur together. Um, I mean, is it, none of the eight have ever been together? Is it, it's the collection of all eight? I mean, if, if you can kind of share with us some of the elements, the examples there, walk us through that. It was just, uh, just unusual to see so many elements, uh, on something. It didn't make any sense to them. They were thinking, well, it's probably just a, just a little device, something like came out of a comb or something, you know, a, a, a, a hairbrush, something like that.

47:44They think in all kinds of stuff, uh, there is no indication that was even remotely true. Um, the next, uh, the, um, the first surgical removal we did, uh, we had literally tested, uh, through the NIDS Foundation, National Institute for Discovery Science, asked if they could review my implants, the ones I picked out, per study in Los Alamos, New Mexico Tech, did the study. Los Alamos constructed a special microscope that literally, uh, had a contained, a contained, uh, chamber on it, so they could fire a laser at the metal implant that we had, and it would literally examine the outside of the structure of the, uh, implant.

48:33And what we found, in effect, was that, again, a strange combination of elements made no sense. You have to understand the professors and doctors and, and specialists doing the work at Los Alamos and New Mexico Tech did not have a clue where this metal came from, but they did figure out very quickly, it was, it was from a rare, uh, meteorite called the Widmanstatin or the outshone, uh, meteorite. And, of course, they asked, how in the world did you find this?

49:03This is, you know, they're very rare. How could you, their needle-like projection is only about a quarter inch long. How in the world could you find those? Of course, I never gave them an answer.

49:13They said, we found eight elements surrounding the, uh, the little, uh, uh, metallic device, and we can't figure out why in the world they would be on there, because in outer space, they wouldn't be there. It doesn't make any sense. They didn't know it came out of a human being, wrapped in the person's own, probably, skin, probably from a, uh, a scoop, uh, a scoop marked area, uh, and we think that's where the biology came, uh, that wrapped the, uh, the implant itself.

49:49So, this was just rather incredible, and, again, bespeaks of the idea of many different elements surrounding the outside of these objects, for what reason, we, of course, do not know. So, my, I guess, like, almost a million dollar question, then, Daryl, is, like, why? Right? I'm sure all of our listeners are wondering that right now. I mean, we, you, you've, you have all of this evidence, uh, around implants. You, you've done, I mean, droves of interviews and research and, and investigations around different abductees.

50:21Um, you, you're, you're connecting all these common denominators and, like, piecing it together in true detective fashion, and rightfully so with your background. What have you been able to point to as the North Star, if anything, or is that something you're still working to, to isolate? Like, I'm just so curious as to find out what the hell are, is the, the reasoning behind it? That's a good, very good question. It's a $64,000 question. Uh, the alien will never tell you, and if they do tell you, I can promise you it's a lie. Uh, they cover, they're, they function just like we did in the intelligence community.

50:55Uh, everything we told people was a lie. It's called a cover story. And, uh, you, one cover story, and then you, if you need another one, you invent another cover story that's better than the other one. And they're all, the truth is nothing but a lie that hadn't been told yet to the intelligence community. That's just the way it works. So, with the implant, uh, we think, and, and you use the word think because we don't actually know, uh, and again, I'm putting my, uh, uh, cop hat on to give an answer here.

51:27Uh, what we think we know is that these objects, uh, which are very rare, seem to be, one of the things they seem to do is alter the, uh, perceptions of a person. Um, we think in some cases they may be used to alter the neurotransmitters, such as serotonin, dopamine, potassium, as an illustration. Now, when that question and that statement is put to a pharmacologist, uh, they looked at me and were stunned. They said, Mr. Sims, do you realize that that assessment is true?

52:00If that's true, whoever, whoever's running that implant owns you. They decide when you're happy, sad, glad, or suicidal. And there's not anything you're going to do about it because they're tampering with your neurotransmitters. I said, that would be correct.

52:16Yeesh. So, okay. Just trying to parse all that real quick. It's so, it's so intense. Um, so like throughout your, your research and your experiences and, and, and all the people that you, you've, you've, you've been able to work with and connect with, Daryl. Are you seeing? Spring is here and look at you. You're still stressed. Allow me to introduce the all new Acora Plunge Collection. Designed to combine performance, durability, and elegance and available in 15 or 19 feet. It's perfect for training, cooling off, or dramatically floating while rethinking your life choices.

52:49And remember, every spa comes loaded, covered, cover, lift, steps, chemical kit, and delivered right to your spot. You just sit, you just soak, and you forget everyone's name. Dynasty Spas. Exit 49 in Athens. Is there any research being done around, like, trying to work backwards what happened before these folks are turned back on, just like the experience you had? I mean, is there any, um, work being done, like in the hypnosis space, or, uh, I mean, is, is that a thing that people are exploring right now?

53:21Is trying to get in there and parse that information? Is it subconscious? Is it something that can be extracted? Or is it simply just like a, like a hard drive that gets reformatted? It's just, it's gone. What, what have you guys seen there? We do, uh, I think to answer your question, uh, for you two guys is, uh, to, when I was at Contact in the Desert, uh, uh, Dr. Russell Targ was there, uh, very famous, uh, scientist, and he was on the same scientific panel, I was on, and he says, we did several remote viewing things.

53:57He said, one of them we did, uh, he said, disturbed me, it scared me really bad, and that's, what was that? He said, we remote viewed a, a UFO.

54:07He said, and we found dozens of dead human beings on it. Definitely. And I said, they asked me, would you like to comment? And I said, I would. I said, I don't have the skills Dr. Targ has to remote view, but I can tell you, uh, and this, of course, is an answer to your question. And I said, but I can't tell you that I use abductees and contactees because they're going to get abducted anyway.

54:37So, in rare cases, if they qualify for my program, I call them my test pilots. When they go back into their abduction, I leave one half of their brain abducted by the alien, and the other half open and completely, uh, uh, ready to go with my work. And they basically are my spies. And so, you remote view by your process of looking at a craft. I have eyewitnesses on, boots on the ground, so to speak, working for me on the craft, looking in places they don't want us to look, seeing things we're not supposed to see, and that sort of thing.

55:14And he just sat there stunned, and I said, now I want to underscore something that you already know from your remote viewing. I said, we've got thousands of people sitting out in this audience who are not going to want to hear what I'm fixing to say. And they're fairly alarmed by what you saw in the remote viewing thing. Yeah, I feel like I know where you're going. I said, we have found 300 containers, approximately, on one craft, with bodies in every one of them.

55:44They were in a white liquid-like, milk-like liquid, and the ship shook, and one of them fell a little bit, and the body on the inside became very visible to the abductee who was spying for me. And he literally freaked out when he saw that. So where my brain immediately goes, and maybe this is just me being a little, like, batshit nuts right now. Maybe not. I hope not. So there's so many, there's several dead bodies that have been observed through this remote viewing.

56:17But there's also so many people that are coming back from these abduction experiences. You also, at the beginning of our conversation today, said that the little creature that was in your room when you were four years old didn't have a belly button, didn't have genitalia, so there's no need for reproduction. And he was not born, right? He was genetically created or cloned through the use of some technology. So where my brain is at right now is when somebody is abducted, is who actually comes back that person, or is the body still on the ship, and what you're seeing being returned back on Earth, a cloned version of them, and that's partially why we're seeing some of the implants.

57:03I mean, I'm sure your brain has worked through that at some point, or am I just, like, off the rocker there? Well, I think we're a little off, and the reason I say that is because I came back, and I assure you, I'm me, whoever I am. Okay, sure, and I wasn't questioning your existence, but by any means. But there are other people, and many, I have 2,000 cases worldwide, and I've discussed all these cases for over 50 years with tens of thousands of people.

57:33And so I'm pretty well versed in the phenomena and all kinds of conspiracies as well, but I pretty much stick to the fact that I use seven different hats when I look at a case, seven different hats. Medical hat, the science hat, the police hat, literally a profiling hat, UFO hat, which pretty much buys into anything UFO, and is always looking for some neat, fun thing. And it's a fun hat to wear, but it's often been fooled by frauds and hucksters and things like that in the UFO community.

58:07So I'm kind of wary of my UFO hat because it kind of believes all kinds of things, and I have to use these other hats, which gives me 14 sets of eyes to look at every case. Not all these hats agree with each other, but that's the good part, in my view, of my experience. And what I will say, and I know this is a little uncomfortable probably for your audience, but there are cases that I reviewed as far back as 1967 at New Mexico State University.

58:43And that's long before most of these UFO investigators even were around, I mean the last majority of them. My point is that even in 1967 I had cases, rare cases, of people that had been taken and literally had died from their experience, and someone else had been replaced, like a baby, a plane crash, where a little baby girl miraculously was found alive in a plane crash.

59:15And the parents had died with the pilot. The only problem with that story is it's not the little girl. Some other little girl was placed, and they took the dead body away. But my big question for people is there's a remarkable book and the work done, and I give credit to the individual, David Pilates, for his work. But the fact is, it's stuff that we've, anybody that's been in the UFO world, has studied, knows this stuff, if you've studied it at all, that there are people in, he's used the public parks, but there are other areas too, whereby people, thousands of them, over the years have disappeared in public parks, and there's not the slightest trace of where any of them went.

1:00:00So that's potentially where the bodies are coming from. Again, the question begs is, who got the bodies, and where are they? They didn't bring them back in those cases. But maybe it's like the, and I hate to use this phrase, because we're talking about human beings here, but I'm almost wondering if the mentality of the abductors is, to make an omelet, you've got to break a couple legs, maybe, right? Like, they know that not every piece of data that they're able to obtain is going to allow for somebody to make the journey home, so to speak.

1:00:30It's like sometimes they're going to get in and see it from all angles, and sometimes that's going to potentially be at the cost of a life. Is that kind of, am I tracking you there? I don't think that, the alien, in my opinion, works for someone else. Because he's hatched cologne-made, manufactured to do a specific job, and specific kinds of jobs, and that's what different ones do. And there is no question that they have their own, whoever sends them and does this stuff has their own agenda.

1:01:01And that kind of flies in the face of a lot of people's thinking, you know, like, how could that be, and how is this? And, you know, my point goes to the, specifically to the fact that these beings, whoever they are, are simply doing their job for someone else, and that we're, you are expendable in the sense of the word.

1:01:32They don't, I don't think they try to kill people necessarily, so to speak. But if they need, for whatever reason, any portion or part of you, and they don't need you in it, then they just need the body parts, the blood, or whatever. That's going, and there's not a whole lot you'll be able to do about it. Sure, sure. Okay, so I know that we're almost at our time here, Daryl. I want to respect yours. My last question for you is regarding cloning.

1:02:03Okay, so if we look back into the Sumerian accounts of the Anunnaki, right, and we look at the cuneiform writings, you know, several different versions of the translation, depending on whose information you're working with there, or research you're working with there. But, you know, essentially, I'm trying to drill down to, are these writings, you know, metaphorical myth, or does your research and experience point to extraterrestrial presence actually stretching back for thousands of years? Furthermore, the cloning ability, right? Like the Anunnaki, as the story goes, come to Earth, they have to, you know, mine the gold to repair their atmosphere, but then they get here and they realize all the labor is ridiculous.

1:02:39And so they look around, they see, you know, what was human beings at that time, humanoids, creatures at that time, genetic manipulation, modification, cloning, and now they have a workforce. Based on your research and all the hats that you wear, Daryl, what's your take on that? Well, first of all, I go back to my initial statement, and your astute listeners will pick this up very quickly, I think, as you and CK, I think, have. And that is, these beings are working for someone else.

1:03:11The someone else is, obviously, we genetic. Spring is here, and look at you. You're still stressed. Allow me to introduce the all-new Acora Plunge Collection, designed to combine performance, durability, and elegance, and available in 15 or 19 feet. It's perfect for training, cooling off, or dramatically floating while rethinking your life choices. And remember, every spa comes loaded, covered, cover lifts, steps, chemical kit, and delivered right to your spot. You just sit, you just soak, and you forget everyone's name.

1:03:43Dynasty Spas, exit 49 in Athens. Online, DynastySpaStore.com. We have not seen them. We've seen the evidence of them. The alien phenomenon, I was closed with this, and it's a cliffhanger, right? It's several cliffhangers at one time, but it'll be good for your audience later on if you want to do another interview.

Conclusion and Next Episode

1:04:04The cliffhanger is the following.

1:04:08The alien phenomenon is only the program called the alien abduction phenomenon. It's probably only been in existence for 100, 150 years. That's it. The alien himself has probably been around in some form or another for a long time, several thousand years, no question. But the program, alien abduction, has not been, I mean, how many alien abductions do we know of over 100 years old? I can't think of any. Yeah. None.

1:04:38Because there haven't been any. That's number one. Number two, there are other programs that were run by these entities who hatch, clone, made, manufactured the alien. They also hatch, clone, made, manufactured, and interbred with, and made a series of giants on the Earth. There were at least three infestations of giants in history, and one of them is the Sumerian story, and there are others. It's certainly not limited to them. If you go to Machu Picchu, the scientists there said, oh, my God, you little people are so smart.

1:05:12Look at all the stuff you built. And they looked at them and said, what? The giants made that. Yeah, we didn't make this. Yeah. So history, we've got to rewrite some things here because the old generic idea of scientists appointing us a history and calling it correct is wrong. So when you look at Inky and N. Lee and look at the base reliefs and the carvings of some of these guys, if you look at one of them, you'll see, I think it's Inky holding a cat underneath his arm.

1:05:45Right. And these little people standing in front of him about three foot tall. The little people about three foot tall are average height individuals, and he's a giant. The little cat in his arm is a full-grown lion that he's carrying. He's a giant himself. He's part and parcel to that entire program. So he was not the maker, so to speak, of that program, but he, in fact, is part of the show, part of another program, in my opinion, made by them who hatched, cloned, made, or manufactured him.

1:06:19Oh, that's a cliffhanger, though, through and through. It is. And you mentioned, you know, if we want to do another interview, I mean, I feel like I speak for both CK and I and, you know, everybody who listens to Lost Origins. Hell yes, we would love to get you back on the show, and we'd be able to just continue to pick the brain, because I only made it through, like, half of my questions. I know CK still has all the questions as well. This has been so awesome, and there's so many things, food for thought here in this conversation, but so what are you working on now?

1:06:49How can people find that work online, and do you have a schedule? How can people get in touch? The best thing that anyone can do if they want to follow what I do is to go to alienhunter.org, and if you look at everything, you see implants actually in the body in situ. There's video film there and all kinds of stuff, and there's books if you're interested. Our work is philanthropic. We do not charge these people for the work that we do on them. It's all been free. I beg, borrow, and push doctors in every way to help me in every way they can.

1:07:20So the bottom line is that you can find me online and simply click on Alien Hunter, the button there, and it'll automatically email me, and you can send any questions that you like. And I answer all my emails. That's amazing. That's amazing. Well, listen, Daryl, I know CK and I just both really, really appreciate you carving out time for us today. This was probably the fastest hour I've experienced in a long time. My brain is just like swimming with all the questions still. But we do appreciate you making time to come on the show today.

1:07:52Thank you for just being open to having a conversation, and I look forward to several conversations down the road. Thank you much. You guys were awesome. Thank you. Cheers. I don't know about you, but it basically took everything that I am, every ounce of what could be adult, quote unquote, control, to not cue in the X-Files theme song throughout. Yeah, dude. And, you know, I've been trying to like, after the whole Area 51 thing, like every part of me wanted to tell him that I'm trying to clap them cheeks at some point, but he's such a serious dude.

1:08:28You know, he's a nice guy. He's super easy to, you know, speak with, but I don't want to undermine the seriousness of all the stuff he's doing by the silliness of what we've had this last year with people, Naruto running just to clap them cheeks. You don't want him to become Daryl Sims, the CK Hunter. Do not. Last thing I need. But hopefully, you know, digging deep on some of this stuff was awesome, as awesome for listeners as it was for us. You know, just kind of probably getting to ask some questions, whether it's Anunnaki, whether it's the ocular implants, you know, just a lot of different things about abduction.

1:09:01There's just a lot here. What I really found fascinating, though, and we've talked about this, like loosely with other guests on the show that have talked about extraterrestrials and different encounters and whatnot, is when he started talking about how his son had essentially a one for one carbon copy experience as it relates to abduction that he had when he was a kid. And then, like, just the genetic connections between these events or these phenomenon, it's just that that for me is just mind bending is all good. I mean, it makes sense. And we've heard about that phenomenon, I feel like, in a couple other conversations as well.

1:09:35Yeah. Right. Just that there may be some sort of genetic markers. There could be some sort of selection theory. There's just things that might link individuals beyond just the stories that people are telling to each other. Like, there could be some other aspect of the profiling of a potential abductee. Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy as all get out. Basically, this, just like every other interview we've done and episode we've done, there's a lot of homework here. A lot of continued digging and rabbit hole diving that I know is going to happen in my world later this evening.

1:10:08So, looking forward to that. So, next week, though, we get to welcome back a previous homie on the show, Mr. Bruce Fenton. Our boy. He's going to be jumping back on the show. And we're going to be continuing the conversation that we started in his last interview. But this time, we're going to be digging into several aspects that were not talked about when we were ripping through, like, the hybrid human theory. We're going to be talking about just, like, the Forgotten Exodus, the Into Africa theory, human evolution as a whole.

1:10:39But he's been doing a lot of new stuff and just chewing on different theories, developing theories, different research that he's really excited to share with us. And, you know, when that guy gets excited, it's infectious as all get out. And we know just, you know, from comments and from things that other people have been looking at that one of the really kind of hot areas of sort of the origins of humanity space in general is just the Denisovans and, you know, how exactly, where exactly did they migrate from? What do those migration patterns look like?

1:11:09We've had some of these conversations with some hitters like Andrew Collins in this last season. And I think just continuing with an expert like Bruce is just such a cool opportunity to keep digging because this is research that's now. You know, this is research that's super cutting edge. Very few people are really even on this. And I think, you know, we're talking about learning stuff through Lost Courses or learning stuff through, you know, the art study of Lost Civilizations through the Great Courses Plus and other mediums. It's pretty amazing to have one of the world's foremost experts on Denisofan migrations, you know, having this real conversation with us.

1:11:42So anybody who's psyched about that, definitely tune in for next week. Yeah. And if you're one of the newer members of our audience and you've not heard the last interview with Bruce Fenton, this is probably a good bit of homework for you for, you know, your drives to work this week. Jump into your favorite podcatcher and, you know, check that out from season two. It's a really rad conversation. There's some new stuff. Like I said, we're going to be talking about one thing that Bruce is really excited to rip through is a recent discovery and create of humanoid footprints that date back to six million years ago.

1:12:12That's a big number, man. Gnarly. Yeah, it's intense. So I'm excited as hell to check that out. If you guys are and you're not subscribed to the show, smash that button, do the five-star review thing. Check us out on patreon.com forward slash lost-origins. Go to the website, lost-origins.com, you know, on every social media platform out there. Just get involved with the community. Like I said, if you're newer to the audience, there is just a thriving group of people just like you asking questions and just trying to figure out where the hell we come from.

1:12:44And so, you know. I'm kind of excited for those of you who haven't been involved and have not, you know, dug through all this content. And it's kind of, you know, it'll be like your own holiday little gifting experience. There's just all these goodies just waiting for you. I'm kind of envious almost. Get them. Get in there. Go get them. So until next week, I am Andrew. I'm CK. And we challenge you to question everything.

1:13:29Is that it too... And we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'll see you next week.

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