S03E14 - Dr. Steven Lin // Quantum Mental Floss

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1:20When you wake up in the morning It's a car to one And you want to have a little fun You brush your teeth You brush your teeth That's Rafi That is some Rafi

1:51Hopefully parents out there felt that one You know what's not Rafi? This episode? Dr. Stephen Lin Dr. Stephen Lin is definitely not Rafi But he may occasionally call people on the banana phone I'm not sure I'm not positive But he might eat some meeples and bananas Also Cool Hopefully three people out there have kids And feel us on the Rafi-ness there I feel about like seven negative reviews coming our way right now

2:22I feel like guys talk about cooler stuff Yeah right I don't want to hear about your opals and bononos Just tell me about the pineal gland Being dumb guys Don't take this down by the bay Yeah Quick shout out to Rafi You know I jammed out to those songs when I was a little kid Same And to be able to introduce your own kids to that gentle bard Yeah He's really still got it And for the kids out there like mine Who you know are metal heads I'm currently working on And the Patreon money is not going to fund this Just so you guys are aware of that

2:53I've already bought all the software and these plugins and everything I'm doing a soup to nuts reimagining of the Rafi catalog In black metal Huh Tuesday, Wednesday, banana phone Yeah It's like that I like it Yeah my kids love it So But uh I know everybody's probably recovering from that kind of an intro Uh You know And Probably think These guys are totally just noobs Just out here talking about kids songs

3:23But our guest today Is anything but childish in his approach to some of the stuff that he's about to drop Straight up Like Hard Hard Science Like the hardest I think Like some of the hardest Yeah I think the biggest thing that jumped out to me when we were uh initially sitting down with him Was How laid back he is about thinking about the quantum biological evolutionary patterns that have developed in How and why human beings biological architecture is built the way that it's built

3:58Yeah Why the neurochemistry that you know essentially governs our behaviors governs how we uh you know move through sleep How we move through the day how we're exposed to happiness sadness these things that are you know seem kind of out of reach Um Really do have this deep basis in quantum biology quantum evolution of our biology Um And all of this is coming to us from somebody who is by trade a medical doctor but a dentist You know and I think that's what really like helped me gain some perspective on this that dude you have no idea what different disciplines know it seems like so many different you know he'll he'll talk about in the episode today that a lot of different disciplines have different pieces of this puzzle

4:43Yep And it's only when you start doing an interdisciplinary approach with other experts that you can start Piecing together kind of this bigger puzzle about what what we are as dream machines You know what we are in terms of how our our neurochemistry governs so much of our behaviors Yeah Really interesting stuff I really feel like we need to get a key stakeholder or representative from each discipline of all of the sciences and on a regular rhythm whether it's weekly or whatever Get them in a room for an L10 so they can like do their thing

5:16Throw some issues on that list Yeah and then just IDS the hell out of them The International Council of Lost Origins Find the origins ladies and gentlemen We'll be back in a moment Don't be shallow and pedantic Can't believe everybody gets their Panties in a wad when the Nikkei takes a dive We should probably just cue that like weird thing we're not going to talk about and explain Dr. Stephen Lin thank you so much for making time for us today

6:05Thank you for having me I'm really really looking forward to this Yeah that's going to be a lot of fun So I mean you probably hold the record for this year's like journey to get here right I mean that's that's that's a trek for sure Trying to think if I if I talk to anyone that traveled further There's a couple of people from the UK Sure Maybe Europe Yeah Maybe equal yeah No that could be I think you win Just take the time Yeah So now so people that are listening to the show understand what the hell we're talking about Where are you from tell us what where's home for you So I'm from a place near Sydney Australia

6:36That's where I practice and you know work and grew up there I do a lot of work in the US But so I do a lot of Australians travel a lot right you see us around Yeah Sure sure sure sure We live a long way That's awesome That's awesome man So do you get over to the states and quite often then I mean you mentioned work and whatnot But you're also doing a lot of conferences and presenting Yeah Yeah so my space is in the health education space So my book was published here in the US and the UK as well So the last few years I've been doing a lot of conferences I train dental professionals health professionals in general

7:07Yeah So the US is kind of a big hub for that So I You're talking about the dental diet right Yeah Yeah Yeah the dental diet is my book that It's published by Hay House internationally And it's kind of plugged into the functional medicine space Don't know how aware Or you know kind of connected you guys are to that But there's a lot of health professionals in the US That are kind of awakening to the idea that you know We can do things a bit differently Yeah yeah yeah for sure And that was that's a number one Amazon bestseller too right Like it's definitely done really really well Yeah you know

7:38It was really hard writing a book about teeth right Because no one wants to go to the dentist Let's be honest They don't So that was kind of a long process to try and make that interesting But then what you kind of find out is that People are very interested in teeth They just don't want to be tortured by their dentist Yeah That's a problem Yeah so people like the idea of teeth And the way I kind of discovered it was that There's a really rich history written in our teeth And how you read the body And how you understand human beings and human history

8:10And the dental diet's about you know Kind of wrapping in dental anthropology To what we see in the mouth today And how we shape you know our health practices To create a mouth-body connection And then understanding a lot more about ourselves Yeah yeah yeah So before we unleash the hounds And let CK go full rip on you As it relates to just quantum biology Pineal gland all the things Tell me about the journey That you've been on in the medical field Spring is here And look at you You're still stressed Allow me to introduce the all-new Akora Plunge Collection

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9:13And maybe I'm not looking at it through the right lens So maybe just like give us some context there No you're straight on the money They are very different verticals I nailed it Cool Yeah yeah You're right there Yes Yeah and so this is one of the first First little, you know, touches of a toe Into this other vertical That I've found Relates a lot to my work And so my work basically started as a dentist You know, I was a biomedical Graduate background Went into dentistry Interested in the body sports

9:44Played rugby I had a view of kind of like holistic health You know, what you put in What you get out For performance and so forth When I went to dental school It was very mechanical And so dental school's intense You learn medicine and dentistry All in one Wrapped in the first couple of years Then you get You've got to learn all the practical skills Surgical skills Then you get thrown out into the world Where, you know, you have this huge debt And you've got, you know This clinic that's got to make money It's an intense time Once you kind of get over that And you kind of wake up

10:14And like realize that you're a person You know, in your late Well, you know, mid to late 20s That have, you know You've spent all this time Focusing on this career Just to look down mouths to fix teeth I started to realize that, you know There were a lot of things That I was noticing in patients That I couldn't explain And it didn't make a lot of sense to me You know, so parents would ask You know, why does this kid You know, have holes And this kid doesn't You know, when they generally Have the same lifestyles But the big one was that You know, why does one kid need braces And other kids don't

10:45And then so all these questions Kept building up And I kept going back to the textbooks And, you know, the answers weren't You know, they weren't coming up And so I actually began to become A bit disillusioned with the idea Of being a dentist for the rest of my life And so, you know Can I really just fix teeth And, you know, it wasn't very satisfying to me So I took some time off I traveled through Europe You know, ended up in a It was actually a traveler's hostel in Turkey And I came across a book On a shared reading shelf Called Nutrition and Physical Degeneration

11:17By a guy named Weston A. Price And so I'd never heard of that before And so, you know, in seven years Of tertiary education That book and that name had never turned up But after his name It said DDS, you know, dentist And so it turns out Weston A. Price Was a very prominent dentist back in his day And what he wrote in that book Was that he had this theory That back in the 30s That all the disease he was seeing In people's mouths So tooth decay Gum disease to an extent

11:48But crooked teeth as well Sure Happened because of the modern diet And so he actually went around the world To 14 different cultures In every single continent Over the planet And showed that when you intercept The modern diet With traditional diets He looked at the anthropology So he looked at all the jaws And teeth of the ancestors Of the people in each area And what happened When they ate these different foods And he found that Bang, in one generation Dental disease pops up He took 14,000 photographs And he showed Like, when you first see it

12:19It didn't mean anything to me Because I was like You know, this looks outdated It looks like it's something That's not You know, with a modern Scientific dress up Sure, sure But what he did Is all those faces I didn't see those things In my clinic You know, I saw He was showing full dental arches You know, wisdom teeth included 32 human teeth Erupting into people's mouths I don't see that Right No tooth decay No gum disease You know, the whole thing Wasn't explained to me As to, you know The etiology The cause of crooked teeth

12:50Was never explained You know, we say It's kind of genetic It's kind of a mixed Racial thing It's really not Because in one generation In the same race All over the world Australian Aboriginals New Zealand Inuit North American African Maasai All over the world As soon as they eat The modern diet Bang, they get crooked teeth Yeah And so that was huge In my And it took me a long time To kind of Process it I actually put the book away And went back to my practice And then eventually went back

13:20And found that there was This whole mystery Into He was showing What foods were causing The growth of the jaw Yeah And this immunity to decay But also telling the body To grow and develop The way it's supposed to And it's in craniofacial form Then when you start to look Across different Areas of medicine You start to see That people are looking At this as well Yeah And that we'd actually Made all the mistakes That Weston A. Price Was telling us not to do Right And we were a population On the brink Of, you know Health disaster

13:50We are a population You know Because we're not Recognizing crooked teeth As one of the The marker points For health Yeah That's so interesting Yeah I need to chill On my gummy bear consumption I absolutely need to Get a different diet In general Something Andrew and I Were talking about Is you know Being around someone Like you Not only somebody Who's a dental professional And medical professional But somebody who has An exquisite set of teeth Yeah You know We want to like Pull our gums Over our teeth A little bit Because at least My mouth is a war zone

14:21Of poor dental choices Throughout life But one of the things That I think Is really fascinating About your work Is the fact That you've taken That kind of Anthropological standpoint And you've dug Even deeper Into a field It's called Quantum biology So for those Who are uninitiated And don't necessarily Understand that Or haven't heard That term before Can you break down You know What brought you To your interest In quantum biology And even just What does the field Entail in general Yeah So the thing That really struck me

14:51About what I learnt After reading Price's work Was he was talking About fat-soluble vitamins And so they're the nutrients That we're told Not to eat right Because they're in fat Fats bad It cause heart attacks So it caused me To look at human physiology In a different way And so foods That contain fat-soluble vitamins Vitamin A and vitamin D So they come from the sun So D is synthesized By the skin But also by foods Vitamin A is yoked By the retinal cycle In the eyes We'll get onto that

15:22In a little bit So this is what he wrote In Nutrition and Physical Degeneration But he also said That there was a third factor And he actually died Before he identified it And he said So there's A, D Inactivated X Humans eat that You get full craniofacial form No chronic disease You live to You know A ripe old age Without any problems With your bones Heart Anything like that Immune disease And so what happened Was that Vitamin A and vitamin D You know We're told not to eat Vitamin A now We're told to Which is

15:52A travesty to human health But so vitamin D Around the 2000s We started to see That sunlight Formulates vitamin D But you know When you go out Out of the zones Of places With light Forming You need to eat it So you have to have Cod liver oils And this is what Price Every culture does it Organ meats Egg yolks Grass-raised dairy These are the foods Milk Yeah That's what contains These precious nutrients The last one Was vitamin K2 Don't know if you guys Have heard of that So K2 is a fat Soluble vitamin It's still not hitting

16:23You know Regular nutritional Recommendations But so It's a form Of vitamin K Is the blood clotting Factor It's a philoquinone It's broadly It's a group Called Quinones And so the K Is philoquinones And that's in your Green leafy Spring is here And look at you You're still stressed Allow me to introduce The all new Acora Plunge Collection Designed to combine Performance, durability And elegance And available In 15 or 19 feet

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17:23Price found That the Swiss They would take The cows up Onto the Spring grown grass Make them eat That grass Convert the K1 And he's found That the butter Was 20 times Richer in K2 Than The butter Back home In the US So this AD and K2 Thing Was critical And if you Eat the AD and K2 That's as simple As it is The foods And the Preparation Around getting Those nutrients If you eat That your body

17:54Is fine And that's What humans Have done For thousands Upon thousands Of years So that was Kind of That's kind Of the Summation That you Know There's a Long story To that With the Book There's breathing There's Everything else But what You begin To see Is that The Degeneration And the Result Of not Eating those Nutrients Causes a lot Of problems In the body And you Start to see Sleep issues Because the Craniofacial Form hasn't Grown The airways Aren't supported So the Upper teeth Sit in the Magzilla Which sit In the

18:25Which also Houses the Nasal sinuses So we're Now in Epidemic Of sleep Apnea And so That's Vibration Of the Airways And so When you Go to Sleep Your brain Is panicking Because you're Not breathing Properly And the One thing You need To do When you Breathe To go Through The five Stages Of sleep Into REM So you Dream Non REM So your Digestive System Clears Out So all Your Hormones Balance Is Breathe Needs To be Deep Nasal Breathing Without Resistance In the Airways So we See that A lot This is

18:56An area Called Functional Dentistry So if People are Familiar With Functional Medicine You put Those two Together And you Take the Mouth Body Connection With Nutrition And then You start To see Some real Changes In Health So this Is all Happening You know We wrote The book We're Practicing This Stuff We're Preventing Braces In Kids I began To think About why This stuff You know Why is Fat Soluble When you Think about It in a You know From a Very fundamental Way The body We're a Water Based System Right

19:26So for In order For Fat Soluble Vitems To be Carried Around The body It has To package It And that's Packaged Into Colomicrons Which is Also Called Blood Cholesterols And so You've Heard About Blood Cholesterol Right And you Probably Think They're Bad That Depends Right Good Cholesterol Bad Cholesterol Yeah That's Right That's Your Packaging System For Carrying Fat Soluble Vitamins Around The Body And So What This Began To Start To Think About Is This Is Basically Carrying

19:58Light Around The Body So Vitamin D Is Stored Light And so That's From The Sun Being Stored By Your Skin Virus A Very Complex Process And you Have To Be Fully Healthy For It To Happen Krebs Cycle And Photosynthesis Yeah There's A lot To Go For The Process To Work Well You Can Store About 20,000 IU Of Vitamin D If You're Healthy A lot Of People Need More In Our Day And We Just Don't Get It If You Live Above A Certain Part Of The Equator Then You Just Don't

20:30Get It And We Spend So Much Time In Artificial Light And So Much Time Out Of The Sun Unless You're A Maybe A Laborer Of Some Sort So Even Just Lifestyle Conditions Keep Us From That Quantity Of Vitamin D Right Absolutely Absolutely So Everything Plays With It And So Once You Start To See So The Body Is Really You Know Very Fastidiously Packaging Up These Fat Solvable Vitamins Which Are The Most Valable So Light So Vitamin A Vitamin D Vitamin A Comes From You You

21:00Can Get It From Your Carrots And Your Kind Of Colourful Vegetables But You Have To Convert It And So Humans Are Systems That Need The Active Versions So D2 Also Comes From Mushrooms But You Have To Convert It And It Actually Competes In The Liver As Well So There's Whereas D3 Where You Get From Animal Foods That's The Version That Converts From Your Skin To Your Liver If You're In The Sunlight And Do They Have Different Solubility Levels Yes Yes So That's The Thing Is You Need To Have Saturated

21:31Fat With It So You Have The Fat

21:44Of Your Genes It's Got VDR Receptors All Over Your Body And So Not Only Does It Place Calcium Into Bones It Signals Your Bone Marrow To Head Out And Be Either An Immune Cell Or A Bone Cell Or To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To If You Don't Brush Your Teeth

22:14As Long As You Have Enough Of These Nutrients You Don't Get To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To To

22:43To To To To To lot of sunlight there's b12 there's choline there's lycopene yeah as well or yeah there's

23:17there's a lot um and most of them like if you kind of look at the nutritional density of of organ meats of liver you'll kind of see a lot of those nutrients there that are very k2 as well so k2 you can get from ferments there's two types of k2 um so japanese natto sauerkraut has the it's called menaquinone seven but there's a menaquinone four which comes from the organ meats egg yolks and grass-raised dairy and it's more active in the liver so there seems to be a need for the for humans to have these animals because the animals convert them for us that's

23:51kind of how we are you know if you if you're eating a fully plant-based diet then you should definitely be supplementing sure sure sure cool so when we were all of this was kind of getting my mind thinking about you know that there's a hierarchy of needs here and there's also an interplay between you know all of this stuff contributes for instance in kids we can prevent braces in kids we do it in the clinics today it's really important when you put the right you know alchemic properties in so light you know water and you let them mix in the same way breathing

24:26very important so the way you if you breathe through the nose you breathe 20 to 30 000 times a day just by breathing through the maxilla you expand it and and it's important in um in adults as well because you release nitric oxide from from the nasal sinuses and the really important thing you don't hear about breathing is that oxygen is kind of the end result but nitric oxide it is involved in mitochondrial um chemical formation and so you miss out on that on on those nutrients just by not

24:57breathing through your nose yeah and so the the most powerful thing you can do for that is breathe you know taping your mouth and breathing for eight hours while you sleep right and you wake up like you've had 10 coffees the other factor is carbon dioxide because it's a cycle so while we say oh we're clearing carbon dioxide out no carbon dioxide is a muscle relaxant and it does a lot of things and if you look at the curve um in which carbon dioxide builds uh in the respiratory cycle before the red blood cells off load oxygen you actually see that um that unless you hold the breath long enough you

25:33don't transfer oxygen so people breathing through the mouth very shallowly um and quickly you're not actually perfusing a lot of oxygen and so for snoring for you know you see anxious people you see them chest breathing and not dive that's why yogis teach diaphragm breathing because you get that deep deep um you know long transfer of respiration and so then this kind of goes into what what that deep breathing does and so you actually find that that pressure in the respiratory system so in the craniofacial

26:05system it makes the jaws and teeth grow at the bottom of the diaphragm it makes the cerebrospinal fluid pump um b pump sorry up the spinal cord and that flows up the spinal cord and it goes into the brain so when you exhale you you exude cerebrospinal fluid which is a charged fluid into the ventricles of the brain and so that's why you feel this rush with a slow exhale so this breathing you know has this really very um very tightly regulated system that not many people have access to that's why

26:40if you sit and do meditation yeah you start to feel this kind of deepening of your thoughts and and calming down but the big thing then was that you know that cerebrospinal fluid actually is seeing past a part of the brain that hangs out the back of a bone called the sphenoid bone and that's the pineal gland so the pineal gland sits out the back bathed in cerebrospinal fluid taking all of this in it's involved with vitamin d3 um via serotonin so d3 activates serotonin

27:12so the pineal gland activates uh the pathway from tryptophan to serotonin to um to melatonin which is when you sleep so as soon as you if you get up and watch the sunrise which is one of the best things you can do for your pineal gland what's happening there is that the melatonin is flipping to serotonin and then so as the day as soon as it goes to darkness darkness is like a nutrient what happens is that then the melatonin takes about four hours it starts to rise hits your blood everything starts to calm down and then so melatonin the the studies on melatonin are amazing like

27:46it's one of the most powerful antioxidants in the digestive system it's an anti-tumor agent um for weight gain it's the role of melatonin is basically you can't find a part of the body that it doesn't affect you know like all these people with digestive orders disorders um part of why sleep is so important right overall health oh completely right absolutely and then so but then we're starting to see here you know that the body is this alchemic engine right like taking light in using it for all

28:18these you know to build bone which is the most the most fundamental biological you know aspect of you know survival if you don't have bone you're done and that's why if you get a toothache or a tooth abscess in in nature you're done as well yeah one of the interesting things i uh and i'm sorry to cut you off during but one of the most interesting things that i've read recently um specifically about the fight or flight response that a lot of you see a lot of in the mammalian kingdom of various types but that uh as people these uh osteo uh specialists are looking into different aspects of

28:53is it a central nervous system is there some electrochemical reaction that's happening and that ultimately a lot of what they're studying now is that it's actually in the bones themselves that are giving many of mammals this uh autonomic response against certain sort of uh electrochemical signals that are then processed by our central nervous system but begin in the bone yeah it's crazy there's this crazy feedback this is you know that's one of the kind of the angles in because

29:25there's this crazy feedback system of what bone does and there's a guy named jack cruise who's really into kind of quantum biologies and neurophysiologist and brain surgeon um and he talks about how how bone is a superconductor yeah because like the right structures you think it's it's mineral you know you have those transcranial uh audio setups now or you can just tap it right into your metal gear solid stuff going on there yeah i mean they're starting to have transcranial uh consumer products now with headphones and stuff like that right yeah and it's crazy what you can

29:57do and this is all vibrations of you and bone takes a long time for your body to set but it's an iterative process so you've got cells that will go in and eat away that um you know the surface layer and rebuild it so your body is managing all of this it just needs the time and nutrients to be able to do it so all of this is kind of like swirling around in my head right and i'm just like this is not the physiology i was taught kind of you know in in biomedical science or dental medical school this

30:28this is going beyond and like so there's a lot of stuff here that we don't understand led me into you know reading a lot more about what's happening in the world of you know quantum physics and so and what they're understanding is that you know biological um your reactions are behaving in a in a manner that don't you know defy the normal laws of uh of what we would say you know the physical world newtonian physics and so what we're beginning to see is that unless we understand our our body as a

31:05an alchemic um machine you know running on light it is literally running on light because that the most crucial thing it is doing is forming its bones to be able to breathe to be able to form its immune system think and function the brain runs on that then you know we're really not understanding and this is where the whole problem with our health has been it's a complete misunderstanding you know we think we can put a little you know a medication or a vaccine or um you know a pill to stop you know

31:35type 2 diabetes is a great example um you know all of these you know diseases are just chronic problems of having the wrong things put in yeah and the other factor of it all is that you know with sleep is that there's a huge influence of astronomical bodies and so you know we started talking about the pineal gland well the pineal gland is measuring where the sun is it's literally measuring where the moon is too and so what's happening is that the sun will tip your conversion of serotonin to melatonin daily so that's that's the this part your body is measuring the rotation of the earth it's also

32:10measuring the so this is just to clarify this is even without you having any photosensitivity like let's say you're in a room that is itself uh magnetically resonant so it would it would spring is here and look at you you're still stressed allow me to introduce the all-new akora plunge collection designed to combine performance durability and elegance and available in 15 or 19 feet it's perfect for training cooling off or dramatically floating while rethinking your life choices and remember every spa comes loaded covered cover lift steps chemical kit and delivered right to your spot

32:44you just sit you just soak and you forget everyone's name dynasty spas exit 49 in athens online dynasty spas store.com you would be able to actually detect with some magnetometer a movement of a planetary body but there is no photosensitivity in the room so you your cells would have no ability to detect uh any sort of photons coming from either the sun itself or reflection off the moon some people call it soma or whatever off of the moon your i just want to understand this is the

33:16with the pineal gland then still have the sensitivity to the movement of those two bodies that you described so what would happen so in people that live in very northern um have really short for the periods yeah so they suffer a lot so what happens is it seems that the the body can maintain its rhythm for a certain amount of time and then it starts starts to decline which is yeah and a good example of that is multiple sclerosis it's really oh it's geographically yes so you don't find it on

33:48the equator because people get sun soon you get it's it's north and south you get the concentrations they're mainly northern europe and it's an autoimmune condition the body eating away sclerotic tissue or lesions being produced in the cortex or different parts of the brain so it's eating the neural tissue any autoimmune issue is just a gut permeability issue and i mean this is just a deepening of just understanding the disease processes but your pineal gland will actually you know it will respond

34:18to a certain extent but you have to feed it that that actual light yeah photosensitivity the kind of photosynthesis that we are built as an alchemical engine like you're saying so is that kind of an example then when some of the connections that you've been able to find between the pineal gland and just human evolution as a whole is is that a good frame of reference for it or is that a completely separate rabbit hole that we're about to jump down that's i think it's it's connected it's both yeah so i mean the idea that the pineal gland so the big problem with the pineal gland is that you know because after after i kind of went through all this and then looking at all these this is all

34:53basically in the medical literature secondary medical literature not well known in primary you know textbooks and stuff but it's all there it's it's you know we know that melatonin changes to the full moon we know that you know the sun d3 serotonin all of that happens i mean the pineal gland is is the body's third eye it's connected to the the two optic nerves via the hypothalamus a super chiasmic nucleus and it runs the endocrine system that and we know that via how melatonin

35:25affects everything and where it all sits and this comes back this is why um kind of teeth are so crucial to it all is that the way i found this was that we were doing with a dentist in new york we were doing a maxillary expansion in adults so you can actually expand the roof of the mouth to decrease to to improve um sleep apnea because you after about it takes about a year it's slow and kids they just go back and they're um you know in six to twelve months you know you see straight teeth they they wake up it's amazing really you prevent braces yeah it's but the reason is because

36:00the symmetry of the maxilla and the teeth coming in the right way creates symmetry to the bone behind it which is the sphenoid bone the sphenoid bone is the keystone of the craniofacial system so if a keystone if you remember those greek or yeah like a megalithic yeah yeah yeah top one everything falls yeah exactly it's it's amazing actually because everything all sits in and the last one plops up that's what the sphenoid bone is it's the only unpaired bone um and and it's behind the nose exactly behind yeah exactly where that where they say you know the third eye yeah and then so

36:35the pituitary gland sits in the ante the front part of it in the cellar tertia and so and behind is that pituitary fossa sorry pineal fossa where the pineal glands hangs out so it's this double winged bone and sits above um your highest vertebrae and and behind the maxilla it's the most crucial part of the body that you've never heard of and your endocrine system is sitting there when you expand the maxilla in adults you also create symmetry in the face the eyes lift up the the side

37:08of the lips because they droop because the craniofacial system is all out but the sphenoid bone we've seen in scans also build symmetry too so the whole craniofacial system via proper breathing and building out the maxilla will start to build symmetry and so what that's doing is it's giving space and the proper platform for the base of the brain to release the hormones so the day and night hormones the alchemic process which is the endocrine system which connects to the thyroid gland the thymus the adrenal gland all of the different everything you can think of you know um

37:42reproductive hormones uh weight gain hormones so when you lose that symmetry and this is what we see in nature is that so an attractive face like we'll say i was like oh you you know you look at hollywood stars they have these you know symmetrical faces right right um but there's a reason for that because you look at it contains the fibonacci numbers and the and the symmetry and the pedals and and what that is is the symmetry of the bones and and so when you see a symmetrical face and you're attracted to it it's you're detecting that good dna expression of airways of the base of the brain

38:18of all of the care and um understanding to grow those things and you're seeing that attractiveness in in a in a partner so we see it as beauty but you see it as just a form of evolutionary biology where we are i mean we have our eyes in front of our head to be this judgmental right and that you're saying that the math is intuitive to us because of our sensibility about what that math represents in its phenotypic expression as we're observing it utterly like you you think of the the peacock's feathers right

38:52so like why would you do that right but there's some reason that that one's healthy i want to go plant a seed right i feel like i just need to shift the trajectory now and it's just like girl that bone structure though yo look at that girl had to go there i don't think it's gonna go got them good genes girl let's do some math i don't feel like that's gonna count and so and so all of this has continued to motivate you to think about the quantum processes that are happening with these systems specifically the way that the endocrine system is sort of being a governor almost for all

39:24of these other um alchemical processes that are happening yeah so then when you no one has really described the pineal gland in that um manner in from the the physical bone um you know location to the biochemical relation as the lead endocrine zone but what it did is as i found that it was written in ancient texts and so you know a guy named shawla de lubix who wrote a book called the temple of man he found that this was written into the temples of you know the um temple of luxor and so you know

40:02the fact that they had such deep craniofacial knowledge and so what it led me into is is looking into these ancient texts just like weston air price's text i was like well how can they know this and the levels of understanding go way way deeper because the pineal gland takes us into the realms of consciousness right because the we don't know that that consciousness itself has comes from the brain there's there's been utterly it's oddly still not decided that that's the case right absolutely in the depth of our neuroscience knowledge that we have some of the smartest people

40:36of all time working in one of the most demanding fields we still don't have an answer to that question and not even close sure yeah it's yeah and so basically like kind of when you when you look at the the body in this you know this very kind of balanced and purposeful um you know beautiful process you start to think you know is there you know how can this pineal gland be connected to you know this this part of our selves or mind or that is behind the physical body and you know the the

41:10evidence is starting to show you know like we're starting to see frequencies so different brain you know binaural beats all these kind of different frequencies will have different effects so there's a lot of applications in sleep medicine just by playing a certain binaural beat it will send out a different frequency of the brain all of these things are aspects of the physical world that we weren't and we don't fully understand and our best understanding is that you know potentially the pineal gland has this ability and this is all written in the ancient text and you know we're at the level now

41:41we're only just beginning to understand it is that by completely optimizing the pineal gland um and completely understanding the breathing process that's why it was you know heavily um you know instructed to breathe properly to use the tongue proper yogis use this technique with the tongue um nutrition and so forth decalcifying the pineal gland so fluoride's another topic on that um but when you when you maintain all of those things there is an ability to vibrate at a frequency that the