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Why You Keep Attracting The Wrong Person (and how to actually fix it) | Naomi

April 9, 202658 min · 10,189 words

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Most people think astrology is a personality quiz. This conversation will make you reconsider that entirely. Naomi Nama Bracha is one of the most sought-after birth chart readers working today. In this episode, she sits down with me for a live, cold read of my chart pulling from the exact position of the sky at the time of my birth to reveal things I've never had explained to me before. Not in therapy. Not in any other conversation. We break down what a birth chart actually is, why it's more mathematical than mystical, and what the planets, signs, and houses each represent. We go into the Saturn-Neptune conjunction that just occurred an event that happens once every 320 years and what it means for the collective and for your chart right now. I also bring the science: a 2015 Columbia University study of 1.7 million patients found birth month correlates with risk for nine types of heart disease, and a 2023 meta-analysis confirmed that being born in winter or spring carries a 5 to 8% higher risk of developing schizophrenia. We also cover what astrology can do that therapy cannot, how synastry charts reveal the truth about your relationships, and how to access your own birth chart for free. Reduce your risk of Alzheimer's with my science-backed protocol for women 30+: https://go.neuroathletics.com.au/brain-code Subscribe to The Neuro Experience for evidence-based conversations at the intersection of brain science, longevity, and performance. _____ TOPICS DISCUSSED 00:00 Naomi Reads Louisa's Birth Chart Live 01:28 Planets, Signs, and Houses Explained 07:25 What Is a Birth Chart 13:48 Saturn on the Sun and the 10th House of Work 16:06 Why People Seek Astrologers and Saturn Returns 18:19 Pisces Rising: The Most Sensitive Sign 22:12 Your Rising Sign as Your Entry Point Into the World 23:36 The Science Linking Birth Month to Disease Risk 27:11 The Saturn-Neptune Conjunction and Current World Events 30:05 Pisces Season and What It Means Personally 33:55 How the Conjunction Is Rewriting Louisa's Identity 37:46 Can Your Chart Predict the Next 5 to 10 Years 39:32 Louisa's 2026 Reading and the Zodiac Life Cycle 42:11 The Shadow of Pisces: Over Giving and Numbing 45:11 Spiritual Practices, Solitude, and the Gym as Ritual 47:40 Freewill vs. Fate in Astrology 50:03 The New Generation and the New Collective Dream 51:56 What Astrology Does That Therapy Cannot 55:19 Synastry Charts and Relationship Patterns _______ Thank you to our sponsors Just Thrive: https://justthrivehealth.com/NEURO for 20% off Warby Parker: https://WarbyParker.com/NEURO Jones Road Beauty: https://www.jonesroadbeauty.com and use Code NEURO _______ I’m Louisa Nicola - clinical neurophysiologist - Alzheimer’s prevention specialist - founder of Neuro Athletics. My mission is to translate cutting-edge neuroscience into actionable strategies for cognitive longevity, peak performance, and brain disease prevention. If you're committed to optimizing your brain- reducing Alzheimer’s risk and staying mentally sharp for life, you’re in the right place. Stay sharp. Stay informed. Join thousands who subscribe to the Neuro Athletics Newsletter → https://bit.ly/3ewI5P0 Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/louisanicola_/⁠ Twitter : ⁠https://twitter.com/louisanicola_⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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essentially a planet represents a force and a sign the zodiac sign represents a style okay through which the force is going to express itself
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your pisces rising energy is the most sensitive energy of the zodiac which means life life you know almost attacked you um sensitive sensitivity wise like you felt everything perceived everything
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when a pisces loses a part of themselves they they switch from spiritual service to sacrifice and when you're sacrificing you're not giving anything anymore you're not you have you have no offering it's the leftovers
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what astrology does that therapy cannot do is although the therapy is important and sometimes very necessary yeah um astrology is is unapologetic as to what is
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0:00do you have that piece of paper we've got my birth chart here which by the way it's beautiful let me ask you what's a birth chart birth chart is a picture of the sky at the time of your birth over centuries people realized that the planets were influencing our behavior our patterns feelings and at first astrology was only used for kings it was a very elite type of forecasting but this knowledge came with us the same way that nature came with us so looking at a birth chart is such a cheat sheet for who you are and if you love someone most definitely understand them

0:32through that lens because you will just know so much about them what is it that you do i read people's birth charts because of the mind-blowing knowledge that we can all have on ourselves and each other and that i believe we should all do whatever we can to put our hands on what can you tell me about myself based on my birth chart and i'll tell you if it's real okay so last week we had saturn and neptune conjunction in the sign of aries and this is a week exactly to the day whatever is going on with iran may be the beginning of world war iii i'm louise nicola and this is the neural experience

1:09naomi i want to be up front okay i'm a neuroscientist i'm a neurophysiologist and i'm a mathematician so i'm very i've lived my life very analytical very logical but i get so many questions about zodiac and and and astrology and i've i want to learn as much as i can so why don't we start first with what's what is the zodiac sign

1:36so when we talk about astrology there are different elements that are very important to take into consideration the number one element is that we are looking at the sky we're not just simply looking at the signs the signs are an element of the sky but we are first and foremost looking at the planets the planets are representing a force and an energy that affect us so for example the planet saturn is the planet that represents structure boundaries time and discipline

2:08why though why um so basically over centuries people realized that the planets were influencing our behavior our patterns collective energies feelings and um general behaviors were influenced by planets and this came about after centuries of paying attention to what was going on in the sky and

2:41how it was impacting the world and at first astrology was only used for kings it was a very elite type of forecasting that only people who had extreme resource resources like kings and queens could hire astrologers who would sit by the night sky and um pay attention to the movement of the planets so over a very long period of time it was discovered and realized that the planets have an effect on us and every planet has a different type of energy that it affects us through okay so i cut you off with

3:17the zodiac so yeah we got to saturn we got this as a planets we're the planets yeah and then the planets are moving through the sky and the sky is composed of cons as constellations which are groupings of stars and they each represent certain zodiac sign so sagittarius for example right is when the sun is traveling through the constellation of sagittarius when we perceive that the sun is in that constellation from us

3:47from our perspective we see that people that are born when the sun is in the constellation of sagittarius have certain character traits they have certain behavioral patterns they have certain type of identities that we find time and time again but would that be the same for let's just say sagittarius what's the date range with that uh this approximately december i'm a sagittarius so i was born in december are you saying that most sagittarius have these the same character traits so yes so most most people

4:25who have their son in sagittarius will will uh show certain similarities in their identities in their self-perception in the way they go about the life now it's not just about the sun the sun was in the constellation of sagittarius at the time of your birth but where was mercury the planet of communication was it in the constellation of gemini sagittarius was it in aries was it in pisces how do you communicate we know how you will identify as a sagittarius you are expanded sagittarius is the

4:58sign that is ruled by the planet jupiter every planet rules a sign so jupiter is the biggest planet it is the planet that expands so it's sagittarian by definition wants to expand wants to explore wants to go further wants to learn more sagittarius have this very expensive energy now where was the moon at the time of your birth was the moon is a constellation of pisces was it in libra where it is extremely concerned about what other person is going to think because libra is the sign of partnership and where are all the planets in which sign and essentially

5:32a planet represents a force and a sign the zodiac sign represents a style okay through which the force is going to express itself so the sun is your identity it's how you shine it's how you want to shine in the world in the constellation of sagittarius you're going to want to shine as a teacher as an expander as a guide now if the planet pluto which is a planet of destruction and transformation is making a hard aspect to your sun in sagittarius it will be harder to access those

6:08powers all right so it's so interesting you're the way that you're speaking i have no i'm i'm i'm finding it hard to keep up with you right and i cannot i think to myself maybe this is what some people listening to the podcast feel when i go in depth with uh neurology so let me ask you a few questions what is it that you do and why do you do what you do so essentially i read people's birth charts that is to say that's your occupation you read people's birth charts yes why

6:45because of the fascinating and mind-blowing knowledge that we can all have on ourselves and each other that is so easily accessible and that i believe we should all do whatever we can to put our hands on okay so it's like going to a therapist if you will but when you read your birth chart you go you know somebody will come to you to read their birth chart to understand more about who they are and where they are in the world is that correct exactly so what's a birth chart so a birth chart

7:16is a picture of the sky at the time of your birth wow so you can get the exact which by the way everyone um listening do you have that piece of paper um if you're watching on youtube we've got my birth chart here which by the way looks very pythagorean it's uh pythagorean um it's beautiful i won't uh zoom in on it but it's a it's a it's a chart what we got my date of birth we got where i lived uh where i was born this city and we got the time and what can you tell me about myself based on my birth chart and i'll

7:55tell you if it's real okay so as uh you you're not only a sagittarius you have something that's called a stellium which means a grouping of three planets or more in one sign okay and you have one two three four you have four planets in sagittarius so it makes you a super sagittarius i'm i'm a huge sagittarius all right okay so with sagittarius we have the energies of do you do you relate to the energies

8:26of teaching guiding being expanded wanting to learn being a seeker that's exactly who i am have you traveled have you are you would you say that you are well traveled yes my first um my very first occupation was a high school teacher so you always wanted to teach always wanted to teach have you taught when you were a child were you in situations where you would show other people the way yes and a shadow aspect of sagittarius which is for every sign we have a light and a shadow aspect um the shadow aspect of the sagittarius is um is that energy of knowing that you know because the sagittarians are so

9:01expanded and they're so smart very often because they've studied so much that they can feel like they know it all so there is a little bit as children it's very sweet to see sagittarius children because they have that tendency of feeling like they know you can't really teach them anything you know they're smarter than you sounds like me but okay reading my birth chart and telling me what my own characteristics are of my personality what is that going to teach me so you tell us what it's going to teach you when i say to you um you have this massive expanded uh seeker energy you are the guide

9:40and it is showing up um in your 10th house which is your house of work because the chart so we take the picture of the sky at the time of your birth we look at the planets every planet represents a certain force a driving force and in which sign it's it's at which which is the the style through which that force is going to express itself and then we look at the house okay right we look at three things yes the planet which is the force the power the influence the sign which is the style sagittarius

10:12is expanded libra cares about partnership so it's very it's a it's all about emotional relationships and um the house which is the domain of life where this affects you the most your sagittarius energy is in your 10th house of work meaning you are not just teaching at home you're not just teaching within your immediate surrounding or even you're not just learning about yourself alone this is your work your son is in the 10th house meaning you are supposed to be very visible to the world

10:43and this is how this light this power of sagittarius the teacher the guy is supposed to express itself so we know that you are aligned with your path your mercury which is your planet of communication is also in sagittarius so you want to teach you communicate through ideas big ideas you also want to share different belief systems you want to show that there is more there's always more you always want to question what's out there and this is also how you want to um share your own light this is your

11:15personality this is your identity if someone said to you you can't teach anymore it would not be okay for you this is really a part of how you are meant to channel your light in your everyday life now you have saturn on your sun saturn is the planet of restriction and boundaries and time on your sun this can show up in different ways one way that it shows up as is your light your teacher guide energy your capacity to communicate difficult ideas in a clear way to the world um is extremely structured

11:49it is regimented it is regimented it is organized it is real wow anybody who comes in contact with me should really just know my birth chart because everything you're saying here is so accurate i feel like i'm uh seeing um i don't know okay keep going because it's it's insane so one of the newest hacks that i have been doing it's not going to be new for you it's new for me is i have started to introduce probiotics into my system and that's because stress doesn't just affect how we feel it affects

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13:34what's very important to know is that by the way this is a cold okay so two things for the audience this is a cold read so i've never looked at your chart before meaning typically if you make an appointment with me i will have looked at it before so i could because there's lots of layers yeah but additionally this is not the exact time so i'm also basing that we are two hours off okay so the entire chart is actually in a different direction yeah we had to get my correct time yeah so if people look zoom in and they're like well that doesn't make sense it's because because i looked at the real one and it's not like this your light is regimented it's organized it's structured so you are someone who

14:12needs time who needs um order who needs discipline and boundaries this is because essentially you lucked out and you worked really hard but someone who doesn't put in the work will never experience levels of fame and success like you are set to because they will feel self-restricted they will themselves constrict their own light and they will boundary their own capacity so you are doing it the right way where you're using this energy of needing to be real making it real through the podcast right

14:43like this is a real way to communicate um you are enabling your light to shine the way that it's meant to which is in this very structured tangible real way but my question is how did i know how to follow this path like i could have just um not taught okay let's just say i didn't go into teaching and then medicine and science what if i just i don't know became a a carpenter if you will like what if i just veered in the opposite direction like are you are you saying that where i'm at today is the product of

15:20the time that i was born and the place i was born no it's not what i'm saying okay um um when people come and talk to me typically they became the carpenter and they don't know what went wrong and they don't know why life is feeling so sad so they ask me we know what is it what does it say in the stars for me so you because of where you are most likely would not go and seek out a breast chart reading because you probably feel very aligned do you know how many of my friends okay i uh you

15:51know my two best friends for example i have a female best friend and a male best friend and they both go every time they're feeling uneasy and maybe they've gone through a breakup they go and see a um they don't see an astrologist a sidekick okay and i'm like why i just i i cannot and they they tell me you should go and see one i'm like but why they're like you know so you know where you're going i'm like i do know where i'm going because i i i i have a clear path and i do everything so this you're right i can't understand why why people go into this that's amazing we're having

16:25this conversation because because exactly you're good and is it because it was easy or because you were born at the right time no you worked really hard to become who you are and this is right here because you it could have been very easy for you to give up very early on i don't know if it's true i don't know anything about you yeah but from from your chart it shows that you've experienced a lot of a lot of loss and grief early on which has led you to which because you're doing the work which astrology will never do for you and medicine will never do for you because you uh took um because

17:00you took charge of your life because you took your agency because you claimed your powers because you're a sovereign being you are able to be here which is where you are meant to be but typically people come to me they haven't had the stamina the capacities to follow their path so meeting an astrologer when you're having a transit which is basically a travel of the planets hitting your chart in a specific way there's an awakening that happens right so the planets are they're still moving

17:33so when they're moving and they're hitting a part of your chart which is your constant blueprint that activates certain energies which then makes everyone at you know 42 44 wonder am i in the right path that's your uranus opposition right so we have this transits the saturn returns at 28 to 30 and the planet saturn comes back to its place of origin in the chart happens approximately every 30 years so we have these times where people are going to feel called to check in with themselves and that's when they will ask someone else like someone that's not a therapist someone

18:05that can look above and beyond time and space so for you you did not do that because you were born and you lucked out no your pisces rising energy is the most sensitive energy of the zodiac which means life life you know almost attacked you um sensitive sensitivity wise like you felt everything perceived everything um in this very raw manner the pisces rising is the most sensitized sign so the world came to you in a way that did not feel protected you did not necessarily feel safe

18:42but because you had um this positive conversations with the planet you are able to to to get to where you are today but your chart reads as someone who experienced pain very early on so this is a pain that's not explainable this is a pain that is coming from spirit and so in a different time and space you just had to go through it it gave you this very thin skin so you understand deeper than most and you

19:12feel into the world so when you walk into a room you can feel into the energy and it's not something that you can necessarily explain do you relate to that oh yeah it's making me emotional i've never cried on a podcast i'm not going to but it's it's so last night i sat with um one of my uh very good friends and we were just talking about how my year has started and it started off really big it started off with a very big bang and i just uh i just returned home from a i was away doing something

19:43that was just so crazy for me in my career and she said she looked at me she goes did you know growing up that you were destined for this life or that you were um going to lead the life and i said you know what yes um and i recount at the age of nine i said i always felt different from everybody around me and i felt like i could i told her i said i always had this sense of i always knew who was good and who was going to be in my life forever or who wasn't and i know we can say that often but

20:16i always had a sense of like which direction was going to work out for me if i went here i used to just i i knew i thought don't go there because it's going to affect you in the next 10 years or don't do this path work-wise it's going to you need to go through it so she was asking me this and you're you're pretty much backing it all up right now okay let's talk about vision i think about vision and i think it's the most overlooked contributors to cognitive fatigue let me tell you the academy of neurology has now stated that mild hearing loss and vision loss can contribute to cognitive

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22:00the rising sign is not a particular planet but it is the sign that's rising on the horizon at the time of your birth and it's basically your portal your entryway into the world and this is the sign that changes every two hours which is why we need the time yes so mine was 11 55 a.m so your pisces rising in this chart with 1 30 p.m when 1 p.m gave you an aries rising so very different charts but the pisces rising is just this is what something that astrology explains which i think that's where it becomes

22:32critical when we're talking about health we're talking about medicine um your your rising sign is your entryway into the world it's the birth time it's what you're born into it's the family you're born into it's the environment you're born into and this will dictate your your instincts your responses your capacities to deal or not deal your um your reactions this is creating the path you set yourself on for the first zero to 14 years of your life 14 until i'm giving a number that is until

23:08you realize hey maybe i can do something differently okay so you can take control over those well that actually brings about the next segment which is where i bridge my gap um i've brought up some some scientific studies and i want to share these with you and basically my team um you know we have a team of analysts that goes through and really sifts through daily you know what's the data on whether whether it's neurosurgery neurology specifically alzheimer's disease and we were talking about this episode and to prepare for it we found a few studies that actually link um population medicine

23:44we'll call it with astrology so there was a 2015 columbia study okay this one looked at 1.7 million people it's a very it's a very big cohort right found that birth month correlated with risk for heart conditions specifically first trimester exposure to air pollution was linked to a higher risk of atrial fibrillation have you ever seen a chart that's pointed to cardiovascular vulnerability or have you ever seen a population that was born at a specific time that correlated with health outcomes i want to just

24:20you know back this up again with another study that found that it was a 2000 and it was a 2023 matter analysis of over 440 000 patients confirmed that being born in winter and spring have a five to eight higher risk of developing schizophrenia how can you explain this so essentially astrology is looking at how the planets in the signs they're currently visiting affecting human behavior and if we're talking

24:57about say a winter births winter birth winter is ruled by saturn the planet of restriction of boundaries of endurance of survival energy um so child being born during capricorn season is you know you have to look at the environment obviously so is there less light is there less um ease is there less comfort what is going on for most people during during this capricorn season and where is saturn currently um

25:28what kind of conversations is saturn making to other planets right so if saturn is making a hard conversation so you know let's say they're fighting saturn and fluto and pluto are fighting pluto is a planet of destruction and saturn is i don't know that planets fought oh they can they can be in disagreement right so like for example in your chart the red lines are showing difficult aspects you know they're different agents and they're conversing with each other differently so here we have jupiter making a hard aspect to venus which is a planet of love and jupiter is your ruling planet because you are a sagittarius

26:04so sagittarius is ruled by the planet jupiter your ruling planet jupiter making a hard aspect to your moon which is your emotional safety we we have here inner tendencies of you know different inner conversations that are this is this is this is yours but typically you can imagine people come in and they have a lot of different inner struggles that they're working through so if the planets at this moment where the study was done um we're in hard aspects to one another so you have the planet of

26:38time fighting with the planet of transformation or the planet of communication fighting with the planet of disruption um then you will have populations that are going to be born under a certain influence interesting now if we were to test um this today the cardiovascular study for example right where we have currently some pretty crazy uh conjunctions happening in the sky today we we live under we are living under extraordinary astrological circumstances in our day and age we just had the neptune and

27:13saturn conjunctions neptune is the planet of dreams and illusions connecting with saturn the planet of time and everything that is tangible so we have a new dream that is being birthed for the collective this is a transition that happens once every 320 years it happened last week i'm trying to think did anything crazy happen last week does that mean something crazy was meant to happen last week did something happen crazy last week to you when you when you think about world powers what well yeah i was um yeah something crazy did happen last week yes yeah um i was you know without going into too much

27:48detail i was just living my day normal life i got a phone call at 8 a.m um louisa you're needed in a specific location today uh pack your bags there's a private jet that's going to pick you up in two hours that's never happened before in my life um it was a very important thing that i had to do and never in my life did i ever think something like that was going to happen that's crazy to me yes and what's really crazy is this so we have so you understand the bigger picture we have these big agents in the sky

28:20that are basically managing the energies that we are all feeling collectively so we're feeling them collectively we're also feeling them personally so last week we had um what may be the beginning of world war three happened in iran in iran yeah right um i mean it happened less than a week ago yes it yeah i remember exactly where i was when that happened and this is a week exactly to the day of the saturn and neptune conjunction in the sign of aries so here to back up a little bit um we have those

28:54big those big powers neptune is the power of illusion and dreams what we allow ourselves to dream and because this is collective this is this is a collective movement that's happening that we're all allowed to dream into a new dream for the world saturn is the planet of restriction and boundaries and time saturn makes it real saturn wants to make the dream real now they did not only meet which happens once every 36 years it's not just that they met it's also that they met at zero degrees of

29:29aries which is the beginning of the zodiac so they are starting a whole new cycle together is that why they called this year the year of the horse the year of the fire horse that's chinese okay so that's different but we are noticing similar themes because it's not that we have different conversations we're all trying to say the same thing we're all just trying to analyze what we're all feeling and how we are all affected by those bigger energies so right now we're in pisces season pisces season is and you are

30:03a pisces rising so even though you know you may think well i'm a sagittarius so this has nothing to do with me as a pisces right rising which is the time where you decided your soul decided to incarnate into the world when you came through you came through this massive amount of sensitivity and spirituality so pisces is the most spiritual sign it is the sign of the end it's the last sign of the zodiac what does that mean for me beautiful beautiful it means that you are tapped into the

30:34truth with a big t on a lot of different levels in your life my hair is going up on my arms because it's true which is something that you know because you are extremely tapped into truth and your truth is a big to capital t and that truth is is twofold for you it's physical it's what you know is true and you may never you know maybe after today you'll realize that your truth comes through your body before it comes through your mind so you do have a tremendous amount of understanding truth from your mind mercury

31:07is in sagittarius sagittarius is the constellation of the archer and it it's pointing it's an archer that's pointing its bow yes towards the heavens it's looking up it's looking further so you're always looking further so even though you were you felt a lot of sensitivity as a child even though you felt loss and grief too early for your age you had incredible optimism you had incredible capacity to move past it to go forward to know that there was more sagittarius is the sign of faith so not

31:43only do you have faith meaning you know there is more you know there is better right around the corner but it's also an energy that you've that you've always felt through your body so you are tapped into the truth now this saturn um this conjunction affected you what it did for you is it activated your destiny point everything that's happening for you this year is aligning you further with your destiny which what your destiny is is for you to fully and truly heal yourself

32:14that was the motto of um this year for me uh it was to to heal you know some traumas that you know i think a lot of people have gone through whatever trauma that is in a big small um it was to heal that's what the theme of this year is for me and integrity i read a fascinating study and it showed that people who do not hydrate properly actually age their skin and that was so scary to me because

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33:52give you a free little gift at the end so this was activated for you so this conjunction right so we have saturn the planet of what is real connecting together with the planet of the dream the great dream neptune is the planet that rules places it's the planet of what is um what is more elevated what is more transcendent than our real life and saturn is our real life starting at zero degrees of aries an entire new zodiac cycle for the world we are witnessing the dawn of a new dream collectively and

34:29personally this is affecting you personally because it's in your first house and what you're witnessing now is a rebirth of your entire identity and self-concept it's changing is that is everybody in oh just yours it's just your first house for you it's in your first house it's in my you are witnessing and what happened for a year for you um the whole past year was understanding what was coming getting a sense of what was coming for you and and grieving what is no longer relevant who you're not anymore

35:02who the girl you have to leave behind to get onto that that new train and now it's full steam ahead oh my god now what we witnessed with whatever is going on with iran and the rest of the world right which could be the actual onset of world war iii is happening just as this conjunction happened and this is this is a time of upheaval so basically for astrology you want to look at how it's affecting

35:32you personally and how it's affecting everyone around you because when you're going to work and as a doctor this is affecting all your patients so could somebody come to you right then by the way how did you get into all of this how did you like because i'm trying to i'm trying to figure out if somebody was to come and see you what about and they've got a sickness okay let's just say somebody's suffering um we can call it terminal illness is that written in their zodiac sign is that what you're

36:04saying so um okay this is a tricky question because of you see a lot of different peoples of the exact same chart you were born at the same time as a lot of other people yes in the exact same location yes so they have the exact same chart however they didn't have the same upbringing they didn't have the same parents they didn't have the same response to the stimuli that came to you so so with um with careful analysis you could definitely find this outside of the chart is

36:37what is happening right now so those are the planets that are visiting all the green ones so if you were to look at the onset of a disease at a specific time where say you know this planet is making a hard aspect to that planet and it would be let's say in this house the sixth house which is the house of the body and you would have capricorn there which is restricting something and uranus the planet of shock visiting at that time you could have an onset of a disease and then the person

37:07could either fall into it that is accepted and the immune system you know lower response from the immune system which is a pisces category um then you know they could or then or not okay so basically yes and no so then how can we then if somebody wanted to understand because i you said a lot of people come to you when they've hit a crossroads you know then are you able to use

37:37their birth chart to figure out what the best trajectory for them is going to be over the next five to ten years yes okay so you've got my birth chart let's figure that out then so and by the way we're going to also get into i'm just using my birth chart because it's the easiest one to use now just as an example this is also new to me we're going to get into how people can actually access this first and foremost i'm i'm sure i know there's an app that ever that everyone keeps talking about what was the app's name so i i'm not going to recommend an app right now because all the

38:12apps work differently and astrology is um is for all to all by all and it is to not be capitalized so much so people can choose their own apps oh but i do believe that it's a knowledge that is accessible to all even without a paying app you know what i mean so if you go on astro.com you have free access to the astrological um weather forecasts so to speak and you can pull up your own birth chart for free and then you can choose which app to use because every app is different what apps will do

38:47today they will you know they will catastrophize certain energy of course oh we have a blood moon lunar eclipse so it means this bad thing is going to happen and and obviously i don't subscribe to that so i'm not going to go and recommend an app that could potentially do that um but people can access their birth chart by inputting their birth information on astro.com they could print their chart and they could try to analyze it or speak to an astrologer i recommend at least once in a lifetime to have a conversation with an astrologer that can actually tell you what's going on because it's

39:18personal so you may not see your own blind spots yeah right um but again we said you are on your path yes right 2026 right what's what is the next five years what's the best way to move through that so for you what you have to do most and most importantly is to um acknowledge your new elevated sense of self you have become um a new more trans transcendent energy of yours has landed in your body and what you

39:56have to do is embody it and because it's an extremely sensitive energy right which makes you sensitive emotional very intuitive and very porous i would suggest you have very strong boundary um spiritual practices pisces needs spiritual practices because pisces is the last sign of the zodiac so how does it start you know how does it work we start with the spring equinox we start with spring we have aries

40:30season aries is the first sign and the last sign is spices so aries first uh first day of aries season we start the zodiac cycle this is where at zero degrees saturn and neptune met last week so we are all going through crazy it's not surprising that people are asking for astrology because they're feeling that something's happening um pisces is the last sign so we can categorize the zodiac as a lifetime aries is the birth the baby's here aries energy screams aries energy says here i am it's the sign of the self

41:08here i am i need my space i need my food give it to me now aries is a cardinal fire sign every sign as as a modality and an element so fire is action-oriented cardinal it starts to cease and it starts spring this is the beginning then we have taurus taurus is fixed earth it's the middle of spring so tauruses are stable grounded um loyal they are very embodied safe people they can be a little stuck a little stubborn a little

41:42complacent right every sign has a light and shadow and this this refers to the certain to a part of life which happens after you understand you exist you're a child and you start understanding that you need to have your own space you need to have your own things you need what's yours and then and so on and so forth until pisces the last sign yes which represents death it's the end it's the end it's what happens when the veil is lifted and you understand what this whole process was about why were you here what have you done what have you accomplished what what do you have to show for

42:15yourself after everything is over that spicy season so pisces is very raw it's very sensitive because we are all right now um you know ending winter a hard winter and we're starting at least on this on this hemisphere um we're gonna start spring and we have to say what do we have to show for ourselves for this for this new spring for the new emergence of spring so having pisces as your first energy which is your rising sign it's your first house you are extremely um capable to perceive

42:50what's on the other side you understand that there is more out there which is also linking with this very important sagittarius energy of going further going higher right you have your eyes on your eyes on the prize you have the your bow is pointed towards the heavens so you have this truth on both sides so because you have this new rebirth of self that's happening for you this year and in the coming year and a half um you need to protect your sensitivity you need to protect your

43:22heart so yes embrace all the new that's coming all the new elevated experience of life that's coming for you but do it in a way that is safe that you don't over give and you don't over love and you don't over share what happens if i do over give and over love and over share well with the pisces energy because you feel so deeply you can lose a part of who you are and what happens when when a pisces loses

43:52a part of themselves they they switch from spiritual service to sacrifice and when you're sacrificing you're not giving anything anymore you're not you have you have no offering it's the leftovers it's whatever is left after everything was taken away so you are not strengthening your gifts you are just giving out of obligation out of duty out of spiritual responsibility but you are not giving from a place of sovereignty and agency which our chart always reminds us to to take ownership of our life of our gift of

44:23our powers so what happens the shadow of pisces because it's the end because it knows what happens after

44:33it will want to numb it will want to just leave so you may show up to work and do an amazing job and come home and just be like no one talk to me i want to numb i want to have a glass of wine or five and i want to just like disconnect because this is too much for me so what we want you to do is we want you to take this new found sense of elevated self into the world but protect it how do you protect it so for you for pisces for pisces rising when it's spiritual practices what are the rituals

45:04that keep you grounded where you are for example spending time alone you need to spend time alone to regenerate your own spiritual power yes we were um i was away and there was uh let's i think there was about 40 of us or 50 and i had to keep you know and and we're on an island and it was from like 7 a.m that i was with people to like 10 but i had to keep going away and just recharging my batteries in complete silence in my room uh just doing me because i my energy my batteries just i can't be around

45:39people 24 7 and i kind of feel like is there something wrong with me but i just didn't have it in me okay exactly beautiful so that's why you want to look at your chart nothing's wrong with you you are you are formatted yeah with such deep spiritual capacities we don't live in a spiritual world we live in a material world so someone with your energy can go out in the world and feel very misunderstood and very hurt and very confused and feel like they don't belong and this makes no sense at all so actually you belong but you are you are on a on a little bit of a pedestal you are different

46:14you are feeling deeper and higher than most people and you are needed because your connection to spirit is needed for other people to understand themselves people that are formatted differently of different blueprints need the way that you transmit this your knowledge which is first and foremost not learned but felt your knowledge is felt through your body this is what you are born into so because pisces is the sign that's the closest to god we need time alone we need rituals so this is meditating this is

46:46journaling this is just you finding my specific rituals and sticking to them yeah yeah yeah totally going to the gym is a ritual for me okay so what's interesting is here with the gym we're talking about bodily movement so bodily movement is unleashing a different type of of of necessary boundary that you need to uphold with yourself so when we have an activated nervous system we definitely want to have

47:17that movement out for you with mercury in sagittarius um you are very you're wired for so much that you are thinking you are receiving so many informations like you're receiving so much all the time that the physical movement is just letting some of that out sweating out all the knowledge sweating out all the information sweating out all the people just sweating it out right so like that's different can you then think about when somebody is born what they're destined for look at some of the

47:51most successful people in the world albeit whether it's they've built massive companies maybe they've uh you know whatever success looks like uh what could you relate that back to their birth chart you could yeah you could certainly see it um after the case after the fact you can see okay this is how they were formatted this makes sense this makes sense now however um sometimes it's very surprising because a lot of geniuses um have very strong piscean and aquarius energies and those energies are not

48:27understood easily by the collective so what made them successful it was not only their own genius not only their environment but it was also the way the planets were communicating with their birth planets at the time of um like you said someone called and said hey get in the jet yeah everything aligned but if you hadn't been where you were because you didn't make the decision five years ago to follow this one impulse there would be no jet correct exactly right so it's not that oh yeah it's sure

48:57it's all predestined not at all we have with astrology we have two very important factors we have free will and we have fate we have both we have the ways that the planets are moving have nothing to do with us and they are affecting us that we want it or not but our free will doesn't change every day we're sovereign beings so we decide to say you you could have given up a long time ago i don't know anything about you but i know that very early on life was very painful and you had to really um become that person you had to become it and it was you it was there all along but you had to make

49:30that decision and you and follow follow through with it which in a way was inevitable because you're so gifted um but yes you can see in a chart what you are destined for and right now all the babies that are born right now are destined for great for greatness they really are so we are witnessing this new generations being born with this conjunction of saturn and neptune in aries starting not only a new cycle but a new collective dream so we are going to witness the world

49:58going where it's meant to go which is a place of peace and a place of harmony and a place of beauty and it's all happening through again neptune is a planet that rules pisces and right now we're in pisces season so we have to look at where neptune is to see how it's affecting this season and neptune is currently in aries which is the sign of the self so we have to dream about ourselves what it means for us to be truly embodied truly sovereign reclaim our gifts reclaim our powers and the babies that are born right now you know they are just being born into this new world

50:29so how do we sum all of this up if we talk to you know if everybody is listening they've just listened to us for the last 45 minutes they're thinking like how do i understand myself better by looking by taking an astrological perspective

50:48so you're not alone and nothing is wrong with you if things are not fitting in your life there are some adjustments have to be made and you have to make sure that you're orienting your life towards your own light in our modern world um too often we're looking at certain characteristics such as um are you in partnership do you have kids how much money do you have what's your career status how long did you go to school for and we're forgetting that there is a whole ecosystem that we are born into families

51:20that we have ancestries that we have history that we have sensitivities that we have emotional needs that may be very different than the people next to us so for example earlier you said you know successful people and success really means different things to different people and and for someone to have a great life could mean that they they marry the love of their life and they have five dogs and move on to an island and never speak to anyone again and that would be in the chart and it would be okay so maybe sometimes you just need the permission to remember who you are and you need that light

51:50showing you back to yourself

51:56wow i want to keep doing this with you i wish i could talk to you uh ongoing so you mentioned that everyone now can go and look at astrology uh what's the what's the website you mentioned astro.com astro.com they can input their data you need your birth certificate obviously to know where you were born what time date etc you put it in there and then it kind of reads it to you and you're based in upstate new york i'm in new york i see people on zoom okay i think i think one of the best uh possible reasons to go to you is you know apart from the obvious if you're having a crossroads

52:32i think this would bode well uh and almost rival couples therapy um what astrology does that therapy cannot do is although the therapy is important and sometimes very necessary yeah um astrology is is unapologetic as to what is and i say that about science it's it's just a fact so so you know astrology is a language and it exists that you believe in it or not it's very um you would love

53:06astrology because you see it's all numbers yeah it's all numbers so that's why i connect it to maths you have your son at 23 degrees of sagittarius and this this and saturn was at an exact same degree at the time of your birth what are the odds of two such strong planets like being on top of each other at the time of your birth in your 10th house of work so it's all exact astrology is is exact it's a very mathematical uh very number based and in terms of couples therapy yes you can say you know

53:36i can say to you this is how you love this is how you need to be loved it cannot love you like that it cannot love you this is how he needs to be loved so you have unison capricorn you need to be loved seriously you need a traditional person who's going to take you seriously and and love you the way that um is traditionally expected you want love that lasts love for you is an investment in time money and energy it's real it's tangible so someone who has you know um venus in scorpio for example who is going to be very into the chemistry and entanglements and measurements and all that good juicy stuff

54:09that's not for you that's called dramatic we did that in our 20s yeah that's not for you like you're not going for that you're going for someone who is for real and that's capricorn capricorn is the sign ruled by saturn and someone that has venus in leo needs to be and i just talked to a girl yesterday she has venus in leo and she feels very ashamed of the fact that she needs to be wined and dined and she needs to be covered with jewelry and she you know and she's admitting all this to me and and it's it's right there it's who she is and that's what she needs and she needs to manifest a partner

54:39who will understand her needs for love um so looking at a birth chart is such a cheat sheet for who you are and what your person needs and if you love someone most definitely understand them through that lens because you will just know so much about them i kind of want to send like my five closest people to you and um not that i have any problem i think like the i have a beautiful um friendship circle and my girlfriends who you know i i've cultivated and i i truly think they know who i

55:14am i can't explain it i've gone through many friends by the way over the years you know sometimes they don't work out friendships and then my five closest girlfriends i might i'm i don't know how to explain them but they know me they know how to talk to me they know everything we there is never an argument between us i've they've been with me for 15 20 years and it's just it just works and i can't explain it that's beautiful so we we know besides for the birth chart there's something called the synastry chart where you would put people's charts on top of each other and see how they communicate and

55:49how they interact with each other so most likely you know you guys have a lot of these beautiful blue um connections that are called trines and sextiles where the planets are making really positive flowy supportive aspect to each other so it's really beautiful to look at a synastry chart especially for friends and see how the energy just flows and it's just magical and there's this very innate sense of understanding the other person um you can see soul connections you know you can see why something will feel faded sometimes people come and they feel like they met their person but things aren't really working

56:23out and you can see how it could feel faded but it's not necessarily meant to happen and the way that people love which is venus and make money the way that people need to need to have their emotional needs met on a very um simple basic level you know those are your non-negotiable emotional needs your moon um and it's in the seventh house so this is the house of of marriage partnership friendship best friendships collaborators partners um so this is very important to you emotionally so knowing that

56:53about someone but a friend about a lover about a family member is just priceless information and it's accessible to all and this is the way that the world was made and when we're talking about medicine so much about medicine today is reclaiming what is actually ours you know our capacity to heal um the belief that the body can heal the but the belief that we may know the answers more than some professionals at times um astrology was was there always for us to to use and there used to be a time where a medical astrology was um was was very normal right the zodiac man system is paying attention

57:31to the way that the moon is traveling through all the signs and never operating on someone on a part of the body that is connected to a sign because obviously every sign is connected to a part of the body that's if we want to actually do medical astrology which is a real study and um it's proven to work um so there's just so much out there and it's really for everyone to enjoy this this knowledge was came with us the same way that nature came with us for us to enjoy so yeah naomi i i think we're gonna have to do a part two thank you so much for being on the neuro experience podcast thank you for having me

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