The Loveland Frogman

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Host Introduction

1:40I'm Paige. And I'm Megan. And this is Spooky Science Systems. Hello, you're listening to Spooky Science Sisters, a podcast where we present to you a science-based and probably very giggly discussion on all things strange and unusual. So last episode, you guys heard mostly from me, Megan, about the cryptid Michele Mbembe,

Loveland Frogman

2:10the lost dinosaur of the Congo River Basin. Today, we are going to a very different river. To talk not about a reptilian cryptid, but about a amphibious cryptid. Because today, Paige is going to teach us about the Loveland Frogman of Ohio. Yay.

2:40But first, we got to do something spooky. So Paige, has anything spooky happened to you recently? Yeah, so everyone has heard about the wonderful start to 2026 that I've had. And I like thought, okay, I've made it. I'm feeling good. Things are going well. And then last week, my husband and I thought like, let's do a really easy grilled cheese dinner, something simple and just, you know, knock it out real fast. And that simple dinner turned into a several-hour ER visit and four stitches

3:18because my husband, while cutting the cheese, sliced into not one, but two of his fingers, like pretty significantly. So yeah, apparently the fun isn't over and I am ready for 2027. I'm over it. Which is very ironic. And I guess sort of is also my something spooky because I think it was the same night that this all went down with Elliot attempting to chop off his fingers that I was listening to the

3:55edit of our last episode and getting it ready to post. And we definitely had a spiel in there about how things were going good. Nothing spooky to report for Paige because like things are on the up and up.

4:09And then I cursed you again.

4:14So your something spooky is also sort of my something spooky, but I am going to take this opportunity to tell everybody that they should be watching Widow's Bay. Oh, I was like, where are you going with this? It is a new show. It's on the Apple TV streaming service, which like, by the way, they are just making some of the best shows right now. Apple, you should sponsor us. But Widow's Bay is only three episodes in. It is like if you took Parks and Recreation and set it

4:50in a spooky, weird Stephen King village. It's so good so far. Like three episodes and I'm like, this might be one of my favorite shows. So everybody should watch it so that way I have lots of people to talk to about it. So Paige, tell us about this frogman. Okay, I can do it. So yeah, our lovely Loveland frogman, or some call him the Loveland lizard, which I've literally never heard.

5:21Do they really? Apparently. I've never heard that ever before. Neither have I. But I guess it's a thing. I don't believe it. That sounds like some bullshit. We're going to stick with frogman. Yeah.

Frogman Sightings

5:32If you don't know, he is a four foot tall bipedal frog-like creature. And he comes from around 20 miles north of Cincinnati in Loveland, Ohio. And there have really only been like three or four documented sightings of this cutie, but it's like definitely part of Loveland's identity. And there was apparently a bill proposed, like I read about it, I think the night that I was taking these notes and it had like, it was like, it had just been announced. So I don't know,

6:04like two, three weeks ago now. They've proposed this bill to make frogman the official Ohio cryptid, which I'm pretty excited about. Yeah. And like frogman is one of my favorite cryptids. As I think most of you know by now, I lived in Cincinnati for five years. And during that time, I rode my bike like several times a week through Loveland on the little Miami bike trail, which rides just along the little Miami river. Kayaked on the river and actually got to like live in Loveland for a little bit. So I don't

6:36know, I guess I have a connection to frogman and I think he's fine.

6:43He's got an ass. Oh, I was like, I thought you meant like fine. Like he's, he's fine. It's whatever. No, like hot damn. This is fun.

7:02I am not interpreting things correctly anymore.

7:08Yes, you did send me the picture with his bodacious butt, but I am suspicious that they just saw the Mothman statue and someone was like, well, we got to give the frogman some booty as well. Yeah, there's plenty of booty to go around.

7:26Um, so, well, first of all, I love Loveland, but I love frogman. One day I will go back to Loveland and participate in the Loveland frogman race, which is a triathlon. But instead of the swim, you get to kayak. Oh, but we together, I have also kayaked on. Yeah, this last summer we went kayaking on the little Miami river and unfortunately did not see any frogman, but it is really nice and the town is super cute. And yeah, they've

8:01definitely, like you said, gone all in on the frogman thing. And there's like cute little coffee shops where you can get little frogman stickers and it's adorable and it's worth a visit. Yeah. Importantly, what you just said is like, I have spent a lot of, like, yeah, I lived there for a bit, but I have spent so much time in Loveland and, like, have never seen a frogman, so. I guess I should also add that, but. And specifically, you spent a bunch of time on the river. Right, exactly. But not in the middle of the night after spending all day selling whatever.

8:36That's fair. I don't remember what product. Hopefully you know. Well, we'll get there, but I'm not clear anyone knows. So yeah, anyway, I, like the residents of Loveland, am very excited about frogman, but we, I guess, shouldn't just talk about how much we love him. We should talk about the sightings. And so the first of the

1955 Sighting

8:58three sightings was in 1955. And here's what I've gathered. It was by an unnamed businessman or maybe salesman at around 3.30 in the morning, but it's unclear on, like, the exact date that it occurred. Some say it was in May. I saw one report that said May 25th. So this is, like, perfect timing for a frogman episode. Oh, my God, it is. Yes. Yeah, this is the best timing.

9:31Oh, that's everyone something spooky. Yeah. Didn't even click. I took these notes and I didn't even think of it. And it's the 61st anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. 71st. No, yeah. 71st. 71st. 71st. 71st. Yeah. We're so good at math. It is not 2016.

9:56Yeah. Here's what we've learned between this episode and then trying to measure elephant feet or whatever the heck we were trying to measure in the last episode. The math has completely gone away for us. Yeah, it's not in there anymore. Okay. Anyway, perfect timing. That's awesome. Perfect timing. But, like, there's, like, no name. I don't really know that I know, like, that I found definitively, like, what this unnamed person, like, sold or did. But they were just, like, a businessman or a salesman. But there also seems to be some discrepancy on, like,

10:31what road the sighting took place. So, like, we're off to a really great start. But the story goes that this unnamed man was said to be driving either to or from work, again, super early in the morning, around the Branch Hill neighborhood when he came across three figures near the side of the road. And the figures, as he described them, were three to four feet tall with frog-like faces and bulging eyes. They had no hair, leathery skin, and were standing on their hind legs. So, like,

11:07mostly a frog. Mostly a really big frog is how he describes them. Yeah. Except also standing on their hind legs, which is weird. But each version of the story is a little bit different. In one version, they were seen alongside the road. In others, they were on or maybe below a bridge. But in what seems to be the most popular version, the man stops his car and he watched these three frog-like creatures converse for a bit before one of them pulled out a wand,

11:41put it above its head, and shot sparks out of it. Yep. And that's the story. The wand is my favorite part. It's so funny. Okay. So, yeah, at this point in the story, the man gets freaked out and leaves. And that's, like, literally all that happens. And I'm with this story up until the wand part. Because, like, listen, there are some things you maybe could see and think, like, that looks like a big frog and get kind of nervous about it. But, like, the rest, the wand part sort of just feels

12:15like you maybe snoozed for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. And I have heard versions of this story where the salesman is sort of decompressing in his car after a long day. It's like, maybe, like, with a couple drinks or something, like, maybe you fell asleep in the car. Yeah. And had a little dream that was a little bit too real. I don't know. But the best part about it

12:45is the wands. Because it's like, what?

12:50What was happening, my guy? And, like, the drawings of it are so good. They're so adorable. Oh, there are adorable ones. Yeah. Like, I want a little picture to have. Yeah.

13:02So, yes, this is where Frogman gets his start. Yeah. It's 1955 with the shooting wand. And I know between this and other sightings, you know, people talk about being really freaked out and, like, there being this really weird, overwhelming smell, I think, in some of the accounts or whatever. Yeah. But for the most part, this is just, like, sort of an adorable cryptid. Yes. There's no scary stuff. There's no, like, Mothman and this bridge collapsed and everyone's freaked out and it maybe killed somebody's dog. This is just...

13:35Like, he's just there. These are just wizard frogs by the side of the road. He's just sort of there. And, yeah, to your point, like, maybe a little stinky, which I would argue, well, you're also on a river. So... This is, like, before the EPA existed. So, who even knows what was in that river at this point in 1955? Yucky. Anyway. So, yes, that's our first sighting. The next documented sighting doesn't happen until 1972. So, 17 years later. And this is the sighting that really solidified the Loveland frog monikers.

14:12Oh, my gosh. Loveland? Why was that so hard to say? Loveland frog man moniker. So, yeah, before this, it was just, like, a spooky frog. But now we're talking about frog man.

1972 Sighting

14:23And on March 3rd, 1972, a police officer, Ray Shockey, was driving on Riverside Drive in Loveland. So, as you can imagine, it's kind of, like, right along the little Miami River. And he's driving around, like, 1 o'clock in the morning when he reported seeing a creature running in front of his car. So, you know, he stops the car. The description Shockey gave of this creature is pretty similar to that of the 1955 sighting. So, after the creature stood crouching in front of his

14:56car, he reported that it stood straight, looked at him, and then ran back off toward the little Miami. Now, Shockey reported what he'd seen immediately to some other officers, which seemingly gives this story a little more weight than the 1955 sighting, since it isn't really clear what happened at all in the initial report. But anyway, he came back to the scene with these officers and they investigated the area to see what they could find. And all they could find were some possible

15:29scratch marks on the guardrails, which Shockey said he saw the creature climb over. So, like, I guess they find something, but I hardly think a few scratches on a guardrail proves the existence of a giant frog creature. Right. And I, like you, have been driven around those roads along that river, and they are all, like, windy, twisty roads, and they're narrow. So, scratch marks mean nothing. Exactly. Somebody, you know, swiped it with their car at one point, and it vaguely looks like,

16:02you know, a scratch from something. For sure. I mean, think of any guardrail you've ever seen on the side of the highway. Right. Like, they never look healthy. Right. Yeah. These ones, I'm sure, have gotten beat up over the years. Right. So, two weeks after Shockey's sighting, another officer, Mark Matthews, had a near-identical sighting story. So, Matthews, you know, has a similar story, only he claims that at some point he takes out his gun and shoots at the creature. Because as we've

16:41learned in America, the best thing to do when something freaks you out is you pull out your gun.

16:49I'm just, like, putting myself in this Mark Matthews head. Like, let's say this story is real. This happened. Yeah. Like, you have a fellow officer who has said, I saw this creature. It saw me. It ran away. And then you have a similar experience. And you're like, well, this thing didn't hurt my buddy, but I'm going to shoot it just in case. I guess, like, maybe he was thinking, like, I could take it back and we could identify it. I don't know. Okay. But no. Because by that point, who knows if the word has gotten around. You know, it could

17:25just be a person in a costume. Right. Yeah, that's fair. Two weeks later. Listen, I mean, we could have a much broader political discussion right now about all of this. And the fact that that might be the most likely scenario for, like, what would happen. But yeah, it's an insane thing to do to, if, if it happened, which I very much doubt, to pull out your gun and just start blasting. Like, that's not, that's not an appropriate response. It's how these things

17:57always go, too. Like, oh, I got my gun out. But why, though? You're fine. I just started blasting. Frogman. You could get a shirt that said, I blasted the Loveland Frogman in 1972. Only if it has the giant ass cheeks on it. Anyway, welcome to our horniest episode.

18:25It's not my fault Frogman has an ass. And a wand. Right. Put that away, Frogman. So, yes. Frogman's ass and guns aside.

18:43We're never going to recover from this. Okay.

18:48This story is important, and we will come back to it later, so don't forget it. Okay. I'm going to remember. So, this takes us to our most recent documented sighting, and that was in August of 2016, when

2016 Sighting

19:04two teenagers were doing what every set of teenagers was doing, and every group of adults was doing in 2016. I was going to say, that's what I was doing, too.

19:13And they were playing Pokemon Go, and they were playing around Lake Isabella in Loveland, which I think is, like, 10-minute-ish drive from, I think, the initial sighting, but it's really close to the Little Miami. So, same sort of area. And they said that they spot what they describe as a really big frog near the water, rearing up on its hind legs. And, of course, they say, like, oh, this is the Frogman. They take photos of it.

19:44There are, like, news articles with them, like, getting interviewed. And I don't really have a whole lot to say about this one, but I do have the photo that they took, and we will include that in the show notes. But first, I want to know, like, when you look at this, Megan, what does it look like to you? Like, knowing that it's associated with Frogman, I can see how it sort of looks like a blurry, dark Kermit the Frog puppet with, like, glowing eyeballs on top of it.

20:20You know what I mean? For sure. But I'm not 100% sure. Like, it could also just, like, it could be a person's torso sticking up out of the water, and they've maybe got a headlamp on, and, like, their arms. I don't know. What am I supposed to, what do you think I'm supposed to be seeing here? What does it look like to you? I will tell you in a minute what everyone else sees. But, like, when I first looked at it, I kind of saw the same thing you said. Like, it sort of looks like a Kermit with, like, flashy eyes. Uh-huh. I think if I, like, look at it long enough, I could almost see where, like, maybe it's,

20:55like, I don't know, like, a lily pad or some sort of, like, greenery that just, like, kind of looks like it's, like, tilted up. You know what I mean? Or, like, maybe, like, a branch or something, and there's something just, like, shining off of it or, like, reflecting onto it or... Yeah, because there is, like, sort of a beam of light in the water in front of it, and it's... Right. Like, I can't tell if the light source is, like, reflecting off of whatever is on top of it onto the water or if that's actually the light itself.

21:26But, yeah, I can, like, maybe see a torso and, like, person with a headlamp. I can also see that. Yeah. Well, you'll get to... I think you're going to get to it in a minute, so I'll wait to say my other thoughts. Okay. So, yes, that photo will be in the show notes, but I will also ask that we include in the show notes the drawing of our friend Frogman, so that way you can see his very impressive glutes.

21:56Which, what's the source for that one? Is that just, like, a random... I think it's just, like, a random drawing, but it's, like, every single blog or article that I looked at had this drawing in it, so it's just, like, a widely used picture of him. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, like, toads or frogs, like, they do have little butt cheeks sometimes, but these are, like, I mean, these are, like, they're, like, meaty cheeks. You guys should be so excited to see this.

22:27Okay. So, I will come back to each of these stories a little bit, but I guess, like, to talk about, like, what do we think people are actually seeing here? Obviously, it's, like, probably not. It's not frogs. I'm just going to say, it's not frogs. Frogs are not... Yeah, it's not giant frogs. Right. Frogs are not growing three to four feet tall and walking around on their hind legs in Cincinnati or really anywhere. Right. The largest living frog species is the goliath frog, which can grow up to 13 inches, so, like,

23:00still pretty damn big for a frog, but, like, several feet smaller than what's being reported in these sightings, and it's found in West Africa, not Southern Ohio. So, like, not a frog. Do you want to know the circumference of that frog? I would like that, yeah. Because from last episode, I know, it's probably about three feet.

23:27That is, like, a big-ass frog. That's, yeah, I mean, that's a big frog. So, yeah, maybe these people were measuring the frog by circumference. Oh, shit, yeah. That changes everything. You just blew the case wide open. I don't even need to do anything else. The episode's over. Yeah, it was just a real giant frog that they measured by circumference.

23:53Ooh, okay. So, not a frog. Yeah. But Cincinnati has lizards, so, like, is it a lizard? No, it's not a lizard. Or at least not, like, a native to Cincinnati lizard. Mm-hmm. The largest lizard living in the Cincinnati region is the broad-headed skink, which can grow up to 12 inches. So, yeah. Point being, it's not a reptile or amphibian native to the area. And that's all I have to say about that, I guess.

24:24Yeah. And arguably, like, I think for reptiles, well, or amphibians, because this is a frog, to get really big, it has to be hot. And, like, Cincinnati gets hot part of the year, but it also snows. Yeah, it's not, like, hot, hot. Yeah, so it's not conducive to large amphibian or reptile growth. Yeah, good point. So, then, like, what do we think they're seeing? As for the 2016 sighting, some people think the photos look like a person with a headlamp on in the water.

24:56Hey! Hey! I'm a genius. Um, others, which, like, this is kind of where I think I landed, though, looking at it now, I'm like, oh, maybe I see the person more. Mm-hmm. But a lot of people think it's, like, maybe a large rock on the water with some light reflecting off of it, whether that be, like, a headlamp or phone flash or someone's headlights. Yeah. But either way, it seems like that most people would agree that the 2016 sighting was a hoax. Yeah, hoax or misidentification, like, or they got, you know, saw something that freaked them out.

25:32Yeah. Speaking of the time, though, and the whole Pokemon Go craze, it was, I mean, everybody was out and about in the day, in the night, wandering around, wandering into bodies of water, you know, trespassing in people's yards, whatever. So I could very easily see that this was somebody who saw a Pokemon somewhere they wanted to get, like, out in the water or wherever. And they just, like, jumped in the water to go get it. And they just waded in and were just going on a journey to go catch it.

26:05Yeah, it could have been. Because that was shit that was happening at the time. Yeah. So if you put it in the context of that, I could totally see that it's a person who's, you know, either playing the game or they're just messing with people who are playing the game. Like, maybe it is a real Pokemon, Paige. Well, so that's what I was going to say, is, like, maybe they didn't find Frogman, but did they just find a Pokemon? Pokemon are real!

26:31I'm sure somebody's come up with this before. I would play, like, Cryptid Go. Oh, I thought you were going to say you would play, like, real-life Pokemon if Pokemon were real. Oh, no. That's kind of cruel. That seems like animal cruelty. Right.

26:45That's basically... Do not support. That's basically cockfighting with more steps. Like, it's not great.

26:56No, I'm saying if somebody invented, like, a Pokemon Go, but you go out and you catch, like, mythical or cryptid creatures, I would play that. I would play that, too. That's indeed.com slash podcast.

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28:06Learn more at iSIMS.com. So that's the, yeah, that's the 2016 sighting. There really isn't much to go off of from the 1955 sighting. There doesn't really seem to be, like, an agreed-upon date or name or time. And I couldn't find an article about the sighting to know, like, even when it was reported or who it was reported to. I did find a Reddit post from someone saying that it wasn't reported until after the 1972 sighting.

28:39But, like, I couldn't find evidence of that anywhere. So there just, like, really isn't much to go off for the 1955 sighting. But, like, I think regardless of whether or not you believe that Frogman is out there,

Conclusion and Discussion

28:55like, I have to believe that most people wouldn't buy the whole, like, shoot in the sparks out of a wand. That's part of it. Right? Yeah. That's the part that makes me think this was a very sleepy person who. Right. Maybe pulled over and, I don't know, had had a couple too many drinks or whatever and, or maybe was just really tired because they were traveling salesmen. Yeah. Pulled over on the side of the road, had a little snooze, and sort of had a weird dream that, you know, they thought was real.

29:28That's what I think. Yeah. But, yeah, so that's kind of where I'm at with the 1955 sighting. So then, like, all we really have to go off of is that 1972 sighting where we have Officer Shockey who reported seeing the creatures, but then Officer Matthews reported that similar sighting several weeks later. See, I told you we'd come back to this one. Unfortunately, though, for Shockey, Matthews reports that he has a similar sighting and then later comes out and walks that story back.

30:02And he stated that the story had been blown out of proportion. And what he saw was, quote, no monster, but likely just a large pet lizard that had gotten out or been let out by their owner. And it got startled when it saw his headlights. Oh, no. And I guess I didn't put it in the notes, but I believe, like, he even says, like, I literally was just, like, trying to make Officer Shockey feel better. Like, he was, like, trying to, like, put a story out there to make Shockey seem, like,

30:34less unstable. Because, like, people were making fun of Shockey for this. Oh, he was just trying to have his back. Right. Yeah, yeah. Which is, like, kind of sweet. But, like, also, why are we taking out the gun and shooting things? I still don't understand. Why did that have to be part of it?

30:52Come on, man. Yeah. So, yeah, he thinks, like, whatever it was that I saw was likely just, like, someone's pet iguana or some, like, large pet lizard that got out. Now, I'll admit, as, like, several others and, like, blogs and other podcasts and such have pointed out, it does seem a little bit odd that a lizard would be just, like, walking around instead of, like, hiding during, like, the colder, icy conditions. Because I said this was in March.

31:23Oh, yeah. So, like, it seems unlikely. But, like, I guess it isn't possible that it could have been a pet lizard. Yeah. I mean, I can be pretty warm in March there sometimes. Yeah, that's fair. But, you know, that's long enough ago that I feel like it was probably chillier than it is these days in March. Yeah. But, yeah, but even then, I feel like that lizard would have had to be, you know, no more than, like, a day on the loose.

31:53So. Right. Right. So, like, yeah, not impossible. Right. But, like, it seems, like, kind of unlikely. Yeah. But, yeah, like, I actually do believe that both Shaki and Matthews probably saw something. And my best guess and what I've seen other people suggest is that maybe, and I feel like we come back to this a lot, but the whole, like, mangy animal argument, like, it could have been a coyote dog or a deer. Like, mange causes significant hair loss and skin thickening and wrinkling, which can give

32:23it sort of, like, a leathery look. It can also cause inflammation, redness and crusting around the eyes. So, like, it could explain some of the physical attributes described in the reports. And, like, I guess I just think these are all reported kind of at night or at, like, weird times of the day. It's reported by a river. So, like, maybe they are kind of standing, like, down in the, like, ravine, I guess, a little bit. And so they aren't getting, like, I don't know, like, a great look at them.

32:57This feels like a possible explanation to me. Yeah. But also at this point, I think the 1955 sighting had, like, people knew about it. Right? Yes, exactly. And that's where I'm, yes. It could also be that it was people messing around. It's very possible. Yeah. Who I guess are lucky that they didn't get shot when they met up with Officer Matthews. But yeah, people whipping his gun out to shoot at the blizzard. That's a good point.

33:27Yeah, it very well could have just been, like, somebody messing around. Right. So, I don't know. That's my only other two cents on what could be going on here. Yeah, I think that is possible. But then that, you know, that brings up, like, then what is, like, what did that initial 1955 sighting, like, what was that? And it's worth mentioning that not long before that first sighting, so about February of 1954, the movie The Creature from the Black Lagoon had come out, which is a movie about an amphibious

34:00humanoid monster living in the waters of the Amazon, and it's named Gilman. And, like, I don't know. It's not that different from Frogman. Nope. And there's always a frickin' movie. The Loch Ness Monster. McKellian Bembe had sort of, well, had at least pop culture stuff happening that could have influenced early stories about it. Now even Frogman. Now even Frogman.

34:31So, yeah. Oh, and the more recent one was Chupacabra. Yeah, all of them. Yeah. So, I feel like I'm going to wrap this up the way that we wrap, like, every one of these Kryptonian episodes up, which is that, like, I think probably, you know, that 1955 sighting, somebody had seen this movie, probably did see something, right? And then I don't think we're, like, or to your point, like, had a couple drinks or was

35:02relaxing in the car and took a snooze and had a dream that sort of was influenced by watching the film. Like, anything like that could have happened, right? And as it goes with these stories, like, once that initial report and sighting was introduced, they sort of just, like, take on a life of their own and are passed down over generations. And now here we are in 2026 and Frogman is going to be the Ohio, the official Ohio cryptid. But I don't know. So, yeah, that's my take on it.

35:33Maybe, you know, maybe in 1972, there could have been, like I said, like a sick animal or something, or maybe somebody was messing around. But yeah, the one thing I was going to point out was, I was going to ask, because there's a lot of these where people were sort of go back and fill in indigenous folklore and apply it to sort of later cryptid sightings and use it to flesh out a history for the cryptid, like Bigfoot gets that because they took indigenous folklore about wild men that were not apes,

36:10but like said, oh, well, they were actually talking about Bigfoot in those stories. So I looked it up. But even like the cryptid wiki says there's like no Native American folklore about giant frogs or anything in the region. So this very much seems like a modern, a modern invention. Yeah, I couldn't find anything either. Like it really seems like 1955 is the first time that like there's anything about big frogs in Cincinnati. So yeah, that's Frogman.

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