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Tonight our guests from the Esoteric Society of the Philippines tell us about handling paranormal cases, kontra kulam tips, speaking with Spirits and Elementals and the upcoming Summer Soulstice 2026 The Summer Soulstice 2026 is on June 6, 2026 - 7F The Columns, Malugay. You can find more information here: https://www.facebook.com/ESP.Soulstice If you want to find more about ESP, you can find them on FB: https://www.facebook.com/ESPhilippines Thank you again to Miko and Aki for taking the time for this interview. Hopefully we will have a part 2 :D hehehe. If you have experiences with Cosmic Entities or experiences similar to what you heard, you can email me at paranormalsph@gmail.com In case first time mo makinig sa podcast, pwede ka magsimular sa Episode 1: EPISODE 1 The Unexpected Visitor Kung di nyo pa nabalitaan, meron tayong episodes na Deep Dive, English and Tagalog, mahahanap lang yan sa YouTube : English - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg83FW_a91KrMPaZK-9AkbDNNDS0venx Tagalog - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg83FW_a91KpB4E63SE1nG_Bm7IGkgd4 If you enjoy this kind of conversation, you might want to subscribe :D Facebook Spotify YouTube Tiktok Apple Podcast - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do you want to support the podcast? You can help keep us going by giving us a cup of joe! ko-fi.com/paranormalpodcast You can also support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/paranormalpodcast We have different tiers for supporters, from the general support to early access, to joining us on the calls way in advance. No pressure, just additional help for us :) The Para Normal Podcast . Engineered and Produced by f90 Productions Rate and Review our show on Spotify , Pocket Casts, and Apple Podcasts For brand partnerships, advertisements, or other collaboration opportunities with our podcast, please contact our management team at info@tagm.com Enjoy.
Highlighted moments
“Like produces like kapag gumawa ka ng likeness na isang tao, doll or drawing. At kung may mangyari dun sa doll or drawing, sympathetic magic na ang pwede pinawalaan mo, mangyayari rin yun sa likeness pa ang pinag-drawingan mo or yung doll na ginawa mo.”
“ang challenge dun is kailangan mong malaman muna if Thought Form nga ba or servitor or actual sentient entity of a human spirit or elemental, yun yung challenge sa gano'n.”
Transcript
0:00When people venture into the spiritual practice, they go forth on a quest to discover the invisible world. And oftentimes, in this journey, they forget to explore one of the most important pieces of the puzzle, themselves.
0:30Tonight, with the help of our guests from the Esoteric Society of the Philippines, we go on a mini-quest to navigate the often unseen world. We talk about how they handle paranormal cases, the importance of case debriefing and introspection, and rote servitors.
0:53Enjoy. Okay, ngayong gabi, ang ating mga guest ay matagal ko nang nililigawan na maging guest. Pero ayan, finally, nangyari na siya. And malaking pasalamat ko kay Aki, isang listener sa podcast, and member si ESP na ayun nga, na-arrange namin ito. So tonight, ang ating guest ay si Miko and si Aki ng ESP, ng Esoteric Society of the Philippines.
1:26Good evening, sirs. Salamat, salamat. Magandang gabi po. Magandang gabi din. Ayan, magandang gabi, magandang gabi. Ayan, thank you, thank you, thank you at pumayag kayo sa interview na to. Ayan nga, matagal na akong minaka-ready na questions, and ayan nga, usually tinatanong ko itong questions na ito sa mga practitioner. Pero if you can, ayan nga, baka kasi I usually mention in passing, nami-mention ko yung ESP, Esoteric Society of the Philippines. May mga guest yata ako, past guest before na naging, I'm not sure if naging member.
1:59Yes. Nampag-usapan namin yun before. So, can you tell us about ESP? Paano siya nag-start? And kung kayo, kung kailan kayo nag-pumasok, ganun. When we started ESP Shots, that was when the... 2011? 2011, yeah. Yeah. I was part of the founding members of ESP. Although, during that time, I was just a member.
2:29But ESP is actually an offshoot of another group. I'm not sure kung naabutan ninyo yung Spirit Questors by Tony Perez. Yes. During that time kasi, the Spirit Questors was already disbanded. And then, a lot of us wanted to continue yung ginagawa namin from Spirit Questors. Kaya, binooy yung ESP. So, I think it was...
3:00We were in hiatus for about a year. Okay. Tapos, tsaka... Tsaka namin, talman, binalik yung subdivision namin under Esoteric Society of the Routines. Ganun siya, kung paano siya nabuo. So, si Spirit Questors will look at their work from way, way, way before. Very similar sa ginagawa namin. Kasi actually, dun lang tulad namin kinuha yung ano.
3:32And marami rin, ano eh. Marami rin parang naging sister groups. Yes.
3:38Coming from, you know, branching out from the Spirit Questors. So, bigla ko napaisip lang. Kasi, I think, if I'm correct, isa sa sister groups is Lightseers, tama ba? Yes, oo. Galing rin sila, ano, sila peachy. Sina, ano, sila prides. Yeah, galing rin sila. Actually, mga nasa Spirit Questors kami, they were my seniors. Okay. Siguro yung mga minayat. Oo. So, bigla ko napaisip. Nagkakaroon ba?
4:09Maka wishful thinking to. Pero nagkakaroon ba kayo minsan na may quest kayo, kayo as ESP, biglang sabihin nyo, parang kailangan ko ng backup. Tapos, tatawagin nyo yung sister groups o hindi nangyayari yun. May times na gano'n. Pero hindi naman yung during the, ano, parang if they need more people, or if we need more people, we usually ask them in advance. Hindi naman yung parang, ngayon, hindi namin tayo, whatever. Hindi naman, parang hindi naman nangyayari yung gano'ng situation.
4:45But, yun nga, usually yan sila, ano, sila teachy. Minsan, they ask, or minsan kami nag-a-ask rin sa kanila may available na tao. Tapos parang ano rin, parang, you know, volunteer group kasi kami. So, minsan, you know, talagang walang mahatak na tao, we go to a case. So, that's the time that we ask help from it. Since, parehas kami ng parang methodology. Yes.
5:15When it comes to dealing with these cases. Kuso question. Alam ko naman, each group may kanya-kanyang methodology. Pero for you guys, let's say for ESP, ano yung ideal na mix nyo kung meron kayong pupuntahang case? Or depending sa case yun? Well, the usual process kasi is meron kaming dispatcher. So, the dispatcher is the only one who knows about the case.
5:47Kunyari, meron, kunyari, si Aki, meron siyang problema. So, mag-message siya dun sa grupo, mag-contactin na yung ESP. Si dispatcher yung sasagot, tsaka yung mag-initial discussion. Sina, ano mayyari, bla, bla, bla. Pero, it's really just to assess kung it's case or not a case. Kaya hindi pa pinakuusapan na kung ano yun, kung... So, once ma-confirm or ma-verify ni dispatcher na, okay, so this is a legitimate case,
6:25that's the time that the dispatcher will call for volunteers. So, sila volunteers, kunyari, ako, tapos other people will say na, oh, we're available this day. So, dun lang kami makakabuo talaga ng team. Sometimes, due to restrictions, minsan kasi malayo yung lugar or mag-it lang yung place or minsan konti lang yung tao. So, anong nangyari doon, kunyari, kailangan lang four persons, pero ang available ay pito or walong tao.
7:02Nagkakaroon kami ng oracle reading to confirm kung sino dapat yung andun sa case. So, going back to your question, sino yung mix, ano yung klasin na mix. So, depende siya sa case, depende siya dun sa... Sa case. Dun rin sa oracle reading mo. Minsan kasi available ka, gano'n, tapos... Pero hindi ka makakasama because of, yun nga, meron so-to-speak vetting process or parang... Selection process.
7:33Selection process, ano. Yeah. Interesting enough, we always believe, pag na sa isang kaso ka, you're really meant to be in that case. Yes. Diba, Aki, for example, Aki ito, anong mga cases ang usual na napupuntahan mo? Kasi may mga gano'n eh. Kunyari, for example, sa Coulomb case, madalas ako nasa Coulomb case. Pag yung case ay may kinalaman sa property or sa construction, ganyan, kadalasan ako yung napupuntahan doon sa mga kaso na si Aki.
8:10Yeah, Aki ito, meron ka bang common, ano? But usually, ano, napuntahan ko about elementals and, ano, cases about family na sometimes may spirit, pero Muslim elementals, yun. So, may mga gano'n bagay, meron, um, meron parang sa amin natin, if it's a parang murder case, andun siya, whatever, so, maraming gano'n. So, pwede yung specialization, may mga cases na gano'n.
8:42So, ang tanong ko dyan, sinong napupunta sa aswang na case? Ha?
8:48Sa? Meron? Meron ka, no? Meron? So, okay. Minsan ako, pero, ang, minsan lang naman ako, si Aki. Well, ako parang mabibilang lang yung aswang case, yung naman ako. So, pero, alam ko meron, pero, si Denise yata, o si ano, pero usually, saka madalas pag magkakasama kami, yung training may aswang, muna siya, na umaligin po. Oo, meron talaga, nako.
9:19Sige, mamaya pabalikan ko. Yung next question ko lang, kasi, again, may mga nag, in general naman, si Aki di ko alam ano yung episodes na napakinggan niya, pero, in general, ang mga nakakausap ko, usually, they are experiencers, meaning they have different sensitivities or clear senses, pero, kadalasan gusto lang nila maintindihan yung, kumbaga, abilities nila, trying to understand lang. Pero, sa iba, meron na yung iba naman na gustong i-develop further, ganon.
9:54Sa recruitment process nyo, ano usually yung, kunyari, alam ko may seasons lang kayo nagre-recruit, if I understand correctly, di ba, yes? Yes, sir. So, sa ganon, ano yung, parang, conditions nyo, kumbaga sa mga applicants? Well, usually, um, yun nga, you mentioned na seasonal lang kami, kasi, parang, once a year lang kami nag-open ng recruitment or applications, parang, we opened it for a certain period of time, tapos may interviews, and then, by the time na mag-anniversary kami, which is, uh, on July, um, dun namin ina-announce kung sino yung, um,
10:34well, actually, even before that, ina-announce namin kung sino kasok. But, once the anniversary happens, parang, we already closed the, uh, recruitment for the entire year. Next year ka na, ulit namin, interviewin or whatever, or, yeah. Right. But, when it comes to abilities in particular, actually, even if, let's say, you start at zero, we accept people, namin, ano, um, shempre, we have certain criteria that we are looking at, na, shempre, it's, ano, it's, ano, it's how we choose people.
11:06But, if you know, or if you research about ESP, we have three, uh, guiding principles. And, din yung tiktik na namin, the three guiding principles, which is, um, service, unconditional love, and peaceful coexistence. So, if we see those three qualities, that's, uh, already a big, ano, sa amin, a big yes. Pero, siyempre, as mentioned, no, meron rin kaming ibang, uh, ginagawarin na, ano,
11:38to confirm if our, uh, to confirm if our yes is really a yes. So, but, on a, on a HR criteria, it's a thing that we've seen, it's a thing that it's a thing that we've seen. Um, kasi, siyempre, we are a volunteer group, diba? Uh, we don't charge for, or we don't, um, ask for monetary exchange dun sa amin services. So, even that aspect, no, for example, if you're still a student, siyempre, that's medyo questionable.
12:09Yes. How will you be able to, say, um, spend for your, um, pamasahe, going to a certain degree? Diba, gano'n? So, may mga gano'ng things, or kunyari, nakatira ka sa Cebu. Siyempre, impossible naman na maka-attend ka ng, ano, if you're physically in Cebu, diba? So, may mga gano'ng aspect. But, uh, yun, yung na-mention po kanina tatlo, alam na alam ni Aki yan, yun yung treatment namin sa, ano, sa recruitment namin.
12:42Ito, practical question lang. Let's say, mag-deploy kayo sa isang lugar. Mm-hmm. Tapos, let's say, meron doon na, uh, again, iba-iba naman ang social economic class ng mga tao. Meron doon ang, ah, hindi ko, hindi ko afford yung, especially now, na medyo malayo yung, malayo pupuntahan, wala akong pamasahe papunta dyan. Kinocover ba ni Querent yun, or hindi? Sometimes, we ask the respondent to, for example, transportation.
13:13Um, kasi, yun nga, since we're not charging them naman anyways for, you know, the actual service, we ask them naman na, oh, ano, makatawag ng, we can arrange for, for a transportation. Hindi, hindi siya, hindi kami hihingi ng pamasahe. Sila ang mag-aarrange na. Sila ang mag-aarrange na, okay, okay. Kasi nga, no, no, no monetary, ano, amin eh. Uh, um, so sila mag-aarrange ng transportation. Minsan naman, like, ganyan, si Aki, meron siyang kotse, or ako may gula ko.
13:45Uh, kotse. Kami na, yung magka-carpool na ko, magkikita lang kami sa isang place, tapos carpool na lang tayo papuntahan. Minsan, malalayo na kapuntahan namin. Punta ang Tarlac, punta ang Laguna, punta ang, ano. Diba? Road trip talaga. Yeah, siguro the farthest that we've been to was, uh, Sebu. Pero that was arranged talaga by, you know, the, the respondent. So, medyo, ano si, ano, na, um, malaking, ano, malaking case siya.
14:17So, punta talaga yung team ng, ano, no, respondent. And the respondent shouldered the, ano, the expenses for, like, plane fare. But, minsan, pagka-ganon, talagang kailangan isang tao, kung sinong kaya, mayroong ganoon, in past, in the past, no. In fact, naman naman kaming, so far, uh, kasing layo ng Sebu. Oo. Oo. Ano yung case na yun para kailangan idaling kayo doon?
14:50Kung pwede sabihin, kung pwede sabihin. Um, it was a, it was a healing case na, if I'm not mistaken, it was a generational curse. Tapos, namamakay yung mga members of the family. But, uh, siyempre, in that time, ang pumunta doon would be the, I think it was the execum during the time, executive committee. So, sila lang ang pumunta doon.
15:20Tapos, siyempre, sinabay na rin nila, since andun na rin sila, parang, they had a workshop with, hindi ko alam kung existing pa rin sila ngayon, or kung, if they are, hello, the Sebu Paranormal Society, CPS. Ano yun, talon na, parang nagkaroon na rin sila ng training, whatever, no. Kasi, andun na rin naman sila, so, parang masulit ko yung, yung, yung, yung, yung, yung, yung, yung, doon. Oo. Sorry if patalun-talun ako, ha. Pero, okay, kasi kayo yung mga nakaka-experience, kayo yung mga nakakaintindi.
15:51So, gagrab ko yung opportunity itanong, na mention nyo kasi generational curse. So, usually, I'm sure, hindi natin masasabi na black and white generational curse is, ito usually ang cause. Pero, ang generational curse, if, sa pagkaintindi ko, usually, kasalanan ng ancestors, tama ba? Tapos, inaako nung succeeding generation? Gano'n ba yun? Okay. Yes. Okay. O, yun lang.
16:22Yeah. In a, ina, ina, parang very straightforward definition, gano'n nga siya, ito. Kasalanan of another generation para magsasuffer yung mga succeeding generations. So, it's not necessarily just one person, gano'n yan. It's the entire family line. Minsan, certain gender, mabae, lala, okay. Depende sa, ano, sa generational curse. And, when you say generational curse, hindi rin naman siya yung parang namatay o ganyan.
16:53It can manifest as economic status, life, ganyan. Or, yung cycles na si ganyan namatay because of ganyan, namatay si ganyan because of the same reason or disease. So, iba iba siya, siyempre. And, sometimes, ang generational curse is not because someone created the curse or casted the curse on certain, ano. It was because of, maybe, a karmic situation.
17:25Napaulit-ulit na lang yan. So, marami siyang gano'n. Marami siyang gano'n points of view. But, straightforward definition is yun nga. Pababa siya, pababa. Oo. Kasi, yun, the reason I ask that, kasi marami, hindi marami, siguro, less than 10 na nag-inquire sa akin na parang, ba't ganito, parang sunod-sunod. Pero, usually, ang mga natatanong is, I guess, mas desperate na yung mga natatanong sa akin, na usually, may namatay na, naging successive yung pagkamatay,
17:55tapos, minsan, may pattern pa yung pagkamatay. So, parang, yun, dun ako, parang, syempre, di ko rin masagot. O, malay ko ba? Wala akong experience yung ganyan. So, yun nga, pinapasa ko sa inyo. Pinapasa ko sa inyo. Pinapasa ko sa lights, pinapasa ko sa ibang groups. Pero, minsan, parang, again, na-mention ko kay Aki ito before mag-start yung recording. Sabi ko, meron ba kayong cases na, parang, meron kang learn, may profound learning ka na nakukuha dahil sa pagka-solve nyo.
18:26I mean, just for an example ito, kunyari, sabihin natin, generational curse na ganyan. Minsan, di natin alam, yung ginagawa mo ngayon, may impact yan sa generation mo, down the line. And, ibang tao, hindi nila kino-consider yun. Sa totoo lang, yung na-mention ko kanina na, parang, if you are chosen or selected to go to a case, merong reason yun. So, part of our processing, part of our factor, a case kasi, syempre, nag-debrick kami.
18:58And, nag-introspect kami, nag-reflect kami kung bakit sa tingin mo andun ka sa case na yun? Were you there because, in some way, you mirror the case in your personal life? Or, in some way, may natukunan ka ba dun sa kaso? Or, meron kang malaking contribution dun sa pag-solve sa case? So, usually, ganun yung processing namin na, kaya si Aki yandito kasi,
19:33si Aki yung, ano, tawag nung, parang, siya pala yung key para, kasi, sa kanya lumapit o siya yung kinausap ng, ano, no, spirit or ng elemental. Kasi, kung wala si Aki, kami, hindi namin makakausap. May mga ganun, realizations after the case. Wala itong, ano, at the end of the case yung realizations. Pero, syempre, meron mga times na, ay, naku, kasama si Nico, siguro po lang itong case.
20:03Oo, pag ganyan, isip na yan, heavy gatiata ito.
20:08May ganyan na, ano, tawag naman. Ah, syempre, parang, parang, parang, parang, parang, inside joke namin. Ano, parang, ang kasama si ganyan. Naku, ano to, tawag doon, false possession or whatever. But, really, at the end of that case, doon nag-uusap kami. Kaya pagka, parang, talagang madaling araw na, kahit gusto na namin umuwi, mag-uusap pa rin kami, ano, pinaprocess namin. Kasi, it's part of closing the circle or closing the,
20:38kasi, kung syempre, kung hindi mo ginawa, parang, nagano lang tayo, parang, we're just, I don't know, with the other ghosts, but, hindi siya servisyo. O, mga, hindi siya, parang, it's, it's more of a transaction, pagka gano'n na, punta ka lang sa face, tapos, alis na ka lang, uwi na, ganyan. Sa mene, it's a, it's also helping ourselves, develop ourselves. And then, I'm in that, you know, process.
21:09May naalala lang pala ako, siguro, ibabalik ko lang, kung paano didetermine kung case, isang case. Isa sa mga, I guess, yung, ano, ito dito, yung dispatcher. Isa sa mga tinatanong niya sa, sa querent is, parang, i-exhaust na, kunyari, kung may sakit, na, patigyan na ba sa doktor? Baka kasi, sumakit lang ulo. Uy, baka ano to? So, so, isa yun sa mga, sa namin, i-ano, mundane, ano? Oo. I-exhaust lahat na,
21:40under, especially pag yung mga ganyan, mga healing cases. Yes. Ang dami yan na, parang, open na, pita na ba sa ganyan, finding, so, it's a, really, kasi for a time, I was dispatcher, nung, kanama yun, when I was president, nung, ano, nung, ESP, ako rin yung dispatcher. So, the dispatcher's role is really, really, important, no, to, to vet the entire thing.
22:12Eh, ito, ano lang to, parang krum-krum lang siguro to, or, for the lack of a better term, probably. Kumbaga, ano, it's not, it's not really a, ano, esoteric case, no? Yes. Sumakitin. Or ito, baka, ano lang talaga to, medical case, rather than, so yun, so the dispatcher's role is very important more than, kasi sa kanya nagsisimulaan kasi pag-determine. May naalala pa palang isang instance na important dispatcher. Hindi ko lang sure kung, kung ESP na, or baka SQ pa lang,
22:43spirit questers pa lang. Yung, may, ano, may case, so pumunta yung team, may team na pumunta. Yung pala, ika-convert lang pala, I mean, papangaralan lang. May pray over lang. Ay, isama ko pa doon? Spirit questers, parang hindi ako kasasya, ito, ito, ito. Ito kami ganon, nung una pa na, oh my gosh, lumalabas yung edge na. I'm sorry, nabing up. All these things. So, you know, dati, ngayon kasi, magpo-post lang si dispatcher sa groups or sa Facebook
23:14ng, oh, sino, ano, case, number, blah, blah, blah, location, ah, tawag doon, dispatch area. Ganon lang, hindi sinasabi ko anong klaso. Anong klaso. Need three people, need four, ganon lang, ano ngayon, pero dati, oh my gosh, kasi dati, cellphone pa. So, ah, ang lagay pa nun, parang, hindi si dispatcher ang magsasabi sa'yo na, kailangan ko na limang tao, ganyan. Ikaw dapat yung magsabi kay dispatcher.
23:45So, you're given a week, usually Saturdays kami nun. You're given a week, parang, oh, magta-text ka kay dispatcher, oh, pwede ako this Saturday. Tapos, aantay ka na lang noon at the last moment ng Sabado, ano, kapasama ka o hindi. Ganon yung panahon before, next thing pa lang, ano. Tapos, ano pa, tawag na, parang, pag naiwan ka, pag naiwan ka sa, ano, sa dispatch, mahala kang hanapin mo kung saan sila kukunta, hindi ka sasabi ko.
24:15Oo. Saan mo, ano, tawag na, pupuntahan yung kaso. Pero, yung nga, yung dispatcher namin during that time was a psychologist. So, hindi lang, ano, hindi lang esoteric ang tinitignan niya, even the, you know, the mental faculties and, ano, tinitignan nung, ano, ng dispatch mo na. So, yun. Pero, meron pa rin talagang yung, ngayon, kwento ni, ni, ni, ni aki na, pumunta sila doon.
24:47Pinray over sila.
24:51Hindi pala case. Hindi pala case, oo. Sila pala yung kaso. Yung grupo pala yung kaso. Yung grupo pala yung kaso. Pero, pero, question ko is, yun nga, nasa dispatcher tayo. And I think, by design siya. I think, if tama ko, time pa lang ng SQ, yung dispatcher, mag, bibigay ng, kumbaga, mag, gagawa ng group, napupunta sa case. And by design, yun na hindi alam ng group, kung ano yung case. Yes.
25:21Hindi alam ng, ng group, kung anong case. So, kaya nga kami, nagkatara ng, ano, nasama siya, ganyan, ako, baka, ano to? Pero, hindi alam yung, ano, kung ano na. Magsasabi lang yan si dispatcher na, bring kayo, or dala kayo na, for example, healing, healing, healing implements, or, lakakay ng big dog, lakakay ng, ano, minsan, contextual clues, pero, minsan, hindi rin pala, ano,
25:51sa ibang nyo pala magagamit. Pero, piniprepare naman ni dispatcher, kung, ano yung tools, or, ano yung kailangan ninyo ihanda, pagpupakay sa, or, minsan, ang sinasabihinhan ng, ano, tawag nyo ito, ng dispatcher, si HI, who is the head investigator, o, talagang magdala ng ganito, or, if not si HI, si respondent, o, yung, ano, yung, yung client, siya yung sinasabihan na,
26:21maghanda kayo ng ganito, ano, para doon sa, sa darating. The reason I ask this, kasi, and, ili-lead ko to that question rin, kasi, alam ko naman, alam ko naman, may mga listener na, nagbubuo sila ng, hindi ko nila lahat ha, pero may mga listener, nagbubuo sila sa sariling grupo nila, and, they base their, let's say, uy, ma-strip, uy, parang, uy, merong, merong nagtanong sa akin, ganito, puntahan natin. So, sila, pupunta sila,
26:52without, parang, kumbaga, for me kasi, naiintindihan ko bakit yung dispatcher, hindi magkasabi ng, details, para pagdating mo doon, as a group, kanya-kanya kayong, ang pag-indindig ko, kanya-kanya kayong read, para hindi biased yung, yes, yung lalabas na information galing, from each of you, diba? And I think that works, kasi, pag, punta mo pa lang, may bias ka na, may bias yung sagot na darat, sa sabihin mo, diba? So, let's say, bad example, merong, isang grupo sila,
27:22pupunta sila, o tapos, ah, may aswang dito, tapos, yun na, agad-agad iisipin na, may aswang na doon. So, lahat ng makikita nilang, through intuition, through their, mind's eye, aswang na. Ayas na, aswang na. O, diba? Totoo yan, yun yung, number one reason, yung bakit hindi sinasabi, sabi-sabi na dispatcher, no? It's because, para, to enslate ka, no? Kung dating namin doon, clean slate, ano, kami tanon, talagang, we will use, we will exhaust, all our,
27:53ano, methodologies, para, we get to the root of the problem, hindi yung meron ko ng idea, or what's that? And yun, yung mismong, address na pupuntahan, on the dates of, malalala lang, on the dates of, kaya, kita kayo, sasabihin nyo lang yan, o, Starbucks 6750, o, ibig sabihin nyo yan, ano, baka sa South kami, ganun tayo, or sa Makani. Kaya, pag sinabi, o, dito tayo sa, sa Tumas mo na to, bla, bla, bla, so, medyo nasalap, ano tayo, Kaysong City siguro yan,
28:24yun lang ang aming, ano, knowledge of, yung cruise nyo. Minsan, yung pupuntahan namin, dispatch area, yun na pala yun. Ito pala yung kaso. Pero, matanong ko, Mikot, sabi mo nga, pag nasasama ka, most likely kulang. Bakit gano'n? Hindi, pinag-isipan lang namin, na baka.
28:47Ito po sa kanila, bakit?
28:51Ano kasi, before, parang, ah, okay, sige. Before kasi, parang kami merong, ah, how do you say it? Black Ops. Okay, okay. Na pag, Coulomb case siya, hindi na siya, dinadaan sa normal dispatch. Hindi, dispatch na kayo, din po, yung nakalit siya. So, ito, Nico, kailangan ka dito. Nico, Michelle, Ariel, kayong tatlo, kailangan dito. Tapos, ano siya, Tarlac, or whatever. Ngayon pupunta doon, tapos, ano na yun, parang,
29:22understood na kami nyo na, ah, okay, parang special, special case, oh, kailangan kami dito. So, siguro na, ano lang rin yun, nadala na, ano, kasi ngayon, parang, ang role ko, madalas, parang, pag nasa case ako, more on, tinuturuan ko na sila, sila, at least, or, uh, parang, parang, oh, pag, pag, pumunta ko, tapos kulang case, dun na puntahan namin. So, yung, mga, methods na alam ko,
29:53tinuturo ko na sa kanila, kung paano nila doon. Okay. Anong nga ako, nag, knowledge transfer na ako sa kanila. Ano, tsaka yun yung, ano, yung, ang, role ko sa, sa group na yun, when it comes to the, to the organization, is training and development ang hawak ko. So, kaya si, pag gano'n, ang, mga joke pa ng mga, gano'n nila ako, oh, yun dyan si Nico, ano yan, talad, maraming, maraming ituturo na yun ako.
30:27But, yeah, ganun na yung, dati kasi ako yung student, so ngayon, ako naman yun. Nagpapasa, yes, so, okay, ito, kulang, kulang related question. Okay, kasi, I'm assuming, Nico na, since, yun nga, namimension na lang, pag, sa'yo, may kulang. So, I'm sure, parang may, hindi ko sinasabing, absolute truth ko, ano yung sasabihin mo, pero, ikaw, based on sa mga, nakatakal mo na, may kulang, ano yung learning mo na parang,
30:57ano yung pwedeng gawin ng tao, para hindi silang makulang? Okay, well, siguro, usually, doon sa mga, doon sa grupo namin, parang, inaala namin is, parang di ka makulang, you should raise your vibrations. Ang kulang kasi, ang kulang kasi, it's a low vibration. So, kung parehas kayo ng vibration, low vibration mo, negative ka, negative ka, tapos, pessimist ka, et cetera, bla, bla, bla, tatamaan ka ng kulang,
31:28kasi it attacks your lower vibrations, eh. So, ang ginagawa namin, you should raise up your vibration, mag-meditate ka, connect to your divine, et cetera, sa mga katoliko, or sa mga, nagsimba ka, et cetera, masal ka. That's how you, parang, initially, initially protect yourself from, ano, diba, para hindi ka tamaan. Pero syempre, may mga galing namang kukulang na kaya, nila talagang kulamin ka, kaya, ano, meron, meron mga, ano, may mga,
32:01like, pangontra, na, ano, na, pwedeng gawin. Minsan, meron rin yung mga, kunyay, mga unintentional. Yes. Kunyay, pupunta sa isang lugar, pasok ka sa Starbucks, saya-saya mo, tapos paglabas mo, parang, parang wala ka na sa mood, ang lupot mo na, ganyan. Yun pala, isa doon sa mga, nasa loob ng, ng cafe, or ng coffee shop is, hindi niya alam, psychic vampire siya, or, ano, so, meron mga other instances, but, usually,
32:31may mga, parang, first aid kami, na, or, minsan, we also have a, parang, training module, sa, ano, sa ESP, yung defense, defense against the dark hearts, no, siyempre, Harry Potter, Harry Potter, no, ganyan. So, meron kami, dinanon, so, like, for example, feeling mo, if you're really sensitive with energies, no, ang isang, isang, symptom, na, suyasabi namin, ito, is parang,
33:02alam mo yung nag-re-ring, yung panditing mo, or yung may kinitus ka, whatever. Yes, ito sa ho. Yun, ano, um, sabi naman, merong, nag-penetrate ng, ng aura mo, or ng shield mo, so, usually, ginagawa namin doon, all you need to do is cross your arms, parang, you, you, you, you, you cross ka ng arms, or you cross your legs, para hindi sila nakaka, para makancel out yung kanilang, ano, kaya, pag sa mga coffee shop, no, mahilig akong nakadequat, okay,
33:33cross your arms ko, ganyan. And protection. Para pinaprotect mo yung, yung sarili ko. Especially if you're, like me, no, pag, pag-empire ka, yung very sensitive ka to the emotional, other people, kailangan mo talaga yung alagaan, mag-self-care ka na, no, kasi, alam mo na nga, very sensitive ka, makasagap ng emotions ng ibang tao, whether intentional or not, madidrain ka talaga, so you have to protect yourself, cross mo yung arms mo, cross mo yung legs mo, or bring with you black tourmaline,
34:05para, ano, tawag na, naabsorb yung negative energies, dun sa black tourmaline, naninegate niya, or hematite, kung hindi ka, kung hindi ka masyadong sensitive sa mga, sa energies, you can use mga ganong implements, para, kung hindi ka, ano, sa, pero, so that's for, ano, yung mga unintentional na, or, attack mo, pero yung pag in-attake ka na talaga, ano,
34:35mayroong tawag, sa tingin mo, in-attake ka na, or, pinupulang ka na talaga, some of our first aids, well, yung, St. Benedict's medal, you have that, you can use that, you can wear that, or, pwede rin, by, yung sa, bedside mo, or, matutulong ka na, you can have, glass of, water, with rock salt, para dun, maabsorb yung, ano, yung,
35:06kasi usually, pag kinukulang ka, it, dun ka sa pinaka defenseless mo na state, eh, which is, matutuloy ka, diba, so it acts as, ano, well, not a dream catcher, but, ano, a curse catcher, a spell catcher, tapos, in the morning, syempre, wag mong iinumin, diba? wag inumin, nung nag-catch, oo, correct, oo, ipa-flush mo kagad sa, ano, sa inodoro, diba? Or, sometimes, yung mga, binibigay namin na,
35:36first aid sa kanila, sa ilalim ng tama mo, maglagay ka ng pocket mirror, yung pocket mirror, so, diba, pag naksama mo yan, meron siyang mirror side, tapos, itatawag mo siya, so, the mirror, facing down, the mirror, facing down, or the floor, no, para, it's, it acts as a reflective shield, no, kung mayroong magbato sa energy, so, patagbog lang siya, syempre, wag mong iharap yung, ano, tapos, ganun,
36:06wag mo na ilalagay, wag mo nang gagalawin yung, ano, yung mirror, wag mo nang titignan yung, makeup, wax, oo, kung mayroong gagamitin, no, doon siya sa ilalagay, tapos, kung lilinis, kung yun, maglilinis ka, so, just close the, no, without looking at the mirror, and then, just open it again, and then, face it, put it face down, pagka, malinis na siya, malinis na yung ilalim ng kama mo, other, so, ganun, wag mo lang siya ang titignan, so, ganun yung mga, ano namin,
36:36or, yung usual na ginagawa natin, Aki, diba, pagkagaling ka sa case, ang ginagawa mo, pagkakuwi, salt bath, salt bath, salt bath, bago ka matulog, salt bath, or, ano, parang, yung last bubos mo, mayroong pinch of salt, last below,