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How do Spirits in Manila differ from the Spirits and Entities in Baguio? Tonight we hear Enzo's observations and other experiences as he moves from the serene forests of Baguio to the sprawling Urban Jungle. Enzo, thank you again for taking the time, I know this was also a few months in the making. If you missed Enzo's first episode, here's our first part: Ep 153 Baguio Stories - https://youtu.be/amwHLe4WdkQ This episode was recorded immediately after Episode 257 - The Man who Bit the Mountain , it would be best to listen to that one first: Ep 257 - https://youtu.be/KOnAntACsBw As mentioned in the extro, here is the episode link for Ben's Episode, a friend of Enzo Ep 183 Si Ben at ang Nakulam - https://youtu.be/r66Mqzp6n3o If you also have observations about the differences in the spiritual world per region and you want to share it, you can email me at paranormalsph@gmail.com If you are shy and you wish to share it via text instead, you can go to the Discord Server of the Para Normal Podcast: https://discord.gg/YWF4BpS4gQ In case this is your first time listening to the podcast, I would suggest you start with Episode 1: EPISODE 1 The Unexpected Visitor In case you haven't heard, we also have Deep Dive Episodes in English and Tagalog, which are exclusively on YouTube English - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg83FW_a91KrMPaZK-9AkbDNNDS0venx Tagalog - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcg83FW_a91KpB4E63SE1nG_Bm7IGkgd4 If you enjoy this kind of conversation, you might want to subscribe :D Facebook Spotify YouTube Tiktok Apple Podcast - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do you want to support the podcast? You can help keep us going by giving us a cup of joe! ko-fi.com/paranormalpodcast You can also support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/paranormalpodcast We have different tiers for supporters, from the general support to early access, to joining us on the calls way in advance. No pressure, just additional help for us :) The Para Normal Podcast . Engineered and Produced by f90 Productions Rate and Review our show on Spotify , Pocket Casts, and Apple Podcasts For brand partnerships, advertisements, or other collaboration opportunities with our podcast, please contact our management team at info@tagm.com Enjoy.
Highlighted moments
“if you fight, you fight. It's good food. It's like a dessert, I believe, for them.”
“nangyayari ito kapag nagsampay ng undie sa labas ng bahay sa gabi. Mayroon daw kasi na roaming spirit na nag-implant sa underwear”
Transcript
0:00Moving into a different environment usually brings its own unique set of surprises. For Enzo, our guest from episode 153, he shares a few of those surprises. We hear stories of spirits from Intramuros, elemental wars, aliens, and his astral projection seminar with Elizabeth Oropesa.
0:34The episode is also connected with episode 257, The Man Who Bit the Mountain. So I would encourage you to listen to that also as this episode is connected. I had Enzo join the call with Misha because they were both from Baguio. And in this episode also, we have Greg, Misha's friend, sharing his paranormal experiences with Misha. Enjoy! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
1:04Thank you. Thank you. I don't know. I'll connect with you the experience in Baguio but I'm not. Enzo, ready for you? Part 2. Are you ready? Right now? Oh my goodness. If you're ready, if you're ready, next time. I have random stories but they're not... Ayan, sige. Ayan, sige. And so if you have... Kung meron ka lang kung ready ka lang dun sa ano mo, ano to, sa giant mo. When he told that story about the mountain, of him biting into the mountain, then I realized...
1:36And the other week, I had someone tell... Ano no? A few weeks ago, I was editing this episode where he dreamt the mountain was chasing him. Live. And then yung stories mo, so ako parang, ah, okay. Okay. Gets go na. Yeah. To be honest, yung mga giants right now, they're preparing for something. Okay. Giants in Baguio. Everywhere for some reason. Okay. But the ones in Baguio, grabe. So, I don't remember what year.
2:06I think it was 2023. This was our first conversation. Yes. Like... Pero, I think this was after. Grabe. So, where I live, used to live, I was surrounded by mountains and the forest. And for some reason, when I was looking around, I was on top of the mountain. I was looking around the scenic view, like 180.
2:38Mm-hmm. And I was like, duh. And it was clear skies. The moon was really, you know, bright. It wasn't a full moon. Pero, you could see far. Yeah. And suddenly, nag-warp yung reality ko. And I realized, the mountains were like walls. Okay. Okay. Now, parang, in their dimension, the mountains are like, parang you're inside their castle.
3:10Okay. You're inside their world. Mm-hmm. So, parang nag-morph yung trees to be taller. Like, really, really... You know Attack on Titan? Yes, yes. Oh. Like those walls. And I was like, wait a minute. The full moon illuminating the mountains. Tapos nag-morph. Like, di ba? Mountains is like, side to side. Yes, yes. They're like, integrated. This one like, merged into one straight mountain wall. Na parang, wow.
3:41And I realized, grave, it's different na from the physical and the metaphysical. And when Misha earlier was talking about biting in the mountains, he bit something very big. Very big, yes. Oh. Yeah. I can imagine. But if he has the power to absorb entities, or like, eat them, I wonder how it will affect
4:13us who are also sensitive. That's right. That's right. That's right. Will he absorb also, you know? Yeah. Because I know some of us were blessed with gifts from enchanted beings or angels or even demons, but if he can absorb them, what more us? That's why I'm so fascinated about him. Because that's rare.
4:43And my thought, again, I'm not sure if this is how it works for the metaphysical, but that energy that he is absorbing has to go somewhere. So where does it go? That's one of the questions I wanted to ask. But anyway, okay lang. Great. He's an interesting fellow. I would love to meet him, but then again, I'm worried. You know, what if I turn gray? That's right. Like, I'm so fascinated.
5:14I really want to meet him. I want to tinker with his brain and what he sees and what he feels. What superhero? Or is he a rogue? Yes. Correct, correct. He's a rogue in a way. Like, she can take your power? That's right. So I don't know if he takes it, will he be able to use the same ability? Yeah. Again, I've noticed that for the next time. Actually, the question, when he says that he eats the energy, again, how does it manifest?
5:49Does his body feel warm? Again, those are the things that I want to ask him. Is he young? I don't know, actually. I haven't met. The people here, did you meet him? Ah, wait, Greg. Oh, Greg, maybe you want to tell that. He's experienced it firsthand now. Oh, nice. Nice. Hi, good evening, Greg. Good evening. Is he young, Greg? I don't know. Ah, okay. Oh, cut it. I'll blip it. Okay. Yeah. We were office mates before.
6:21So, yeah, here's what happened. If you, yeah, if I can share. Yeah. So we had a project from a very famous restaurant. Because he was a kind of a director for marketing. Tapos ako more into sales. So we teamed up. And we just moved recently to Bulacan that time. And then, apparently, there were some hauntings in my place. But I didn't know about yung metaphysical skills or what the other life that he has.
6:52So it's all about the project. And then, what's happening pala is that there's someone that is in my bed. Like, ang story niya is that yung bed na yun is dating bahay ng isang taong pinatay na sinunog something. But I met that person before, that ghost or something before nung nakatira pa pa sa Malabon. So nung buhay pa? Nung buhay pa yung person na yun? No, no, no, no.
7:22It was in... Merong... Kasi akong narentahan na bahay. It was an old house. Around ano yun eh. Mga 20 years na siyang bakante. Mm-hmm. But then again, it's a good deal. So went there. On my first night, around maybe... Maybe 6 in the morning. Kasi parang namamahay ako. So... When I closed my eyes, may nakita akong babaeng walang balat. Okay. Oo. Upos... Right beside my bed. Mm-hmm. So yun.
7:52Ah... So they didn't notice parang ah wala. The experience lang or what. But then when they got here, parang lumala. Kasi siguro dahil solo na siya dito. Parang sana yung buong lugar. So... Tinakot ko sila. Meron naman ba kayo dun sa ano? Kasi they slept on the other bed eh. Mm-hmm. Yung medyo... Mataas yung... Malaas yung site. Yung ano. Parang kilabot. So... When my wife went to Malabon. To visit their family din. So solo kami.
8:22Nakagawa namin yung project. Dun yun. Sinabi na nila. Since we're partnering on this project. Sige. I think it's better that we share you who we are. So we have another person named... She's full spectrum. And also I think may lineage din siya. Okay. So... Parang babaylan yata. I don't know. But they practice. But then Misha is in... Arabic siya and ifogaw eh. Ah, igrot. Sorry. Ah, yun nga.
8:52Yung nga. Tatanong ko sa kanya. Igrot customs. Pero sige. Go. Igrot siya. Ah, Arabic yun. Igrot. Tama. Ang mother niya ay sa Igrot. So... That's why he's having a hard time in Tagalog. Kaya pag... Nagkatrabaho kami. Medyo hindi siya pinapansin. Kasi nga. Sobrang baloktot ng Tagalog niya. Mm-hmm. So... Ayun. Ayun. So... We went out. Para discuss. So explain na sa akin. About how the world... Yung universe. Etc.
9:22Yung origin ng mga religion. Which I know about Sumerians. Mahilig din ako mag-research. Then we... When we came back... Ayun na. Noon... Nagpakita sa akin. Nagpakita yung... Barang bata na... I'm not sure kung anong class... Classification niya. Pero... What he's hunting is my kid. Ah... My kid has autism. Okay. And sabi nung... Because my kid is a happy kid. So parang... Na-attract daw karami ng elemental sa lugar.
9:52At saka yung... Nasa cam ko na sumapi. Eh... Gustong... Kunin yung anak ko. Because of the energy that... He... Outputs. Hmm. Parang kinakain nila or what. Ah... Ayun. So... I-interview ni niya. Tsaka niya yung... Yung... Ano na yun. Being na yun. Kinausap nila. Kinausap nila. Nagpanggap siya na bata. Tapos... Kasi... Merong the rule... Sa mga... Sa metaphysical na...
10:23Hindi ka pwede magsinungaling. It's like a grave scene. Hmm. But... So... Ang ginagawa nila... Parang... Minimisdirect... Yung... Sagot nila. So yun... I felt yung... I was in the kitchen... Tapos nandun sila sa sofa... While interviewing. Nagtaguro sa likod ko. Yung landscape ng bahay namin... Yung lupa niya... Medyo slant. So... If you put a ball... It will roll... Go into the door... And... And it rolled the opposite way towards me. Okay. So... Okay...
10:53Uh... Something's gonna go down. Hmm. Then... Apparently... The disco... Misha was just like silent... While Lady was interviewing... That being. And for some reason... Misha just shouted... You're lying. Hmm. You're after... My... My kid. My son. Hmm. So ang ginawa niya... He went on... Parang nag-relax mode siya. Then all of a sudden... I felt this... Alam mo yun parang... Pag dinikitan ka ng dry eyes... Hmm.
11:23Yung sa balat... Yung buong... Braso ko... Yun yung naramdaman ko... Hanggang sa mukha. Parang may lumabas sa malaking... Something... Parang lumabas sa Ultraman or something... Parang ganon. Hmm. Then... Tinawa niya... Parang merong kang nararamdaman na kilabot... That's pulling towards him... He can control it though. Hmm. So parang alayin daw sila ng entity niya... Or what... Until now... I'm still discovering that. Oh yun... Then... Kinain niya... Tapos habang kinakain niya... Nalalaman niya yung history nung entity na yun... Or yung being na yun.
11:53Tapos... After that... After a few minutes... For some reason... Parang mas maliwanan na sa bahay. Hmm. Hindi ko alam kung... Wait... Iba yung sa kama... Yung sa kama... Maiba pang entity yun diba? Yun yung nasa kama ko. Ah... Yung nagpapanggap na bata. Okay. So... Parang ang... Story daw... Is pinatay yung babae na yun... Ah... Dahil parang... Marami siyang kabet dun sa isang baryo. Tapos yung mga kababaihan... Parang nainis na...
12:24Sinunog siya. Eh... That time... Bunti siya. So... Tumakbo yung babae na yun... Sa ilog... At dun siya namatay. Okay. Yung mga kabit niya is bata. Dahil na-miss niya raw yung baby na dapat niya ipanganak. Mm-hmm. That was part one. Okay. Tapos yung part two naman... So apparently... Merong tribal war ng mga elemental sa lugar. Okay. Politics. So... Yung subdivision namin has... So...
12:55Merong babae yung nagpapakitang matanda sa may terrace namin. And then... I felt it. Pero hindi ko pinapansin. Kasi hindi ko naman nakikita or what. Pag ating doon... Nung pagbalik nila... Kasi we are finishing a project. Sabi niya... Oh, may bago kang tenant ah. Uh... Then they interviewed that person... That... Ano... Siya raw yung personification nung farm area na to. Yung farm land kasi ito dati. Okay. So... Siya raw yung personification ng lugar. Mm-hmm. Then siya yung parang dieties...
13:25Mm-hmm. Nung mga elementals dito. Mm-hmm. So, she governs the land. Yes. The problem is... Si... Is in love daw... Sa isang higher type of elemental... Or entity. Okay. Na hindi elemental. So, nagkaroon sila ng hybrid na anak. Ito lang po yung kwenta sa akin. So, I don't have the facts or I don't have any idea. Then lumabas si... Yung anak niya... Which is like a special kid. And similar to my son... Kaya siya attracted.
13:55I felt that kid kasi... Every time na malapit na yung anak ko sa school, I would hear a knock dun sa wall ng bedroom namin. Okay. So, I know na nandun na sila sa may gate ng subdivision. Okay. So, that always happened consistently. But then, apparently, napabayaan daw ni yung lugar. So, may kudita na nangyari. Hmm. Na si... Yung anak niya na isa, which is named Maria, parang personification daw siya ng ilog.
14:28Okay. Connected with the son of the matriarch or ano ba yun. Yung parang elder ng mga warrior class na tikbalang sa lugar. Okay. So... Then... Ah... Hindi ko pa alam yung isa na yun. Parang nagsumbong lang kay Misha. Sabi ko, Misha, parang mayroong something sa may haddan.
14:51Then, apparently, isa siyang tikbalang. Hmm. Ah... Tapos, siya yung pinaka-elder sa lugar. Okay. So... Sabi ni Misha, well, you have... Ano rin? Parang mayroong... You have an entity. Tried to eat it. Ako naman, si Ututo. Ginawa ko. And I really felt something from my left hand traveling towards my... From the arm hanggang sa puso. Sabi ko kay Misha, walong video call with him.
15:22Sabi ko, Misha, parang sobrang dami naman. Ang laki naman na ito. Hindi ko kaya ito. Hmm. Sabi niya, hindi. Hayaan mo lang. And then... Apparently, nandun pa rin. May haunting pa rin sa may bandang hagdaan. Sa may kitchen. Pero humili na. Hmm. So, I called. Kasi siya yung full spectrum. So... Went. Came here. Then... Talked. So... Apparently... Si Ka D. Ah...
15:52Became a friend na. Hmm. Um... Is the elder tikbalang in the region. Pinatay yung mga babae nila. Na anak niya. So... Ang problema... Hindi makapagpadami yung clan nila. Okay. And the war needs to stop. So... He's asking help pala. Tapos... Kinahin ko pa. Or... Kinensume ko pa. Pero I... I don't know if it's still active. Probably because I'm... I was really active with Misha that time. So... Yun. Yun yung...
16:22Tinuro niyang skill. Or I'm not sure. Parang capacity ko rin daw. Or everyone can do it. In a sense. To absorb energy. Siguro si Misha yung makakapag-clarify nila. So... Pero yung meaning na absorb... Is kain. Kikakain yung essence. Yeah. From the left... Parang... You can... You can taste it eh. Yeah. You can. Para siyang ano... Fire... Na... Mainit na earthy. That... Yun yung papapasok sa utak ko... Sa reception... Hindi galing sa dila eh. Parang sa reception ng...
16:53Pagkakain din ng utak ko. Doon sa nangyayari. So... After that... Went... So tinawag namin yung mission. To drop by. Kasi humingi ng tulong to. Or what? So nangyayari. Yung bahay ko naging parang barangay hall. So... Parang... Tagpunta lahat daw nung ano. Lahat nung parang captains. Or parang yung mga... Leaders. Nung... Nung clans. Doon sa lugar namin. I'm still skeptical about it. Yes. I feel something. Pero I don't see it. So...
17:23I don't know. Naki-feel mo dumadami. Ganon. Pag may meeting sila. As in parang ano... Parang may... May handaan sa bahay niya. Parang gano'y yung riling. So parang nag-uusap sila. Intense yung usap. About... Land who will take over. Hattin ba yung lupa. Yung territory. Or what. Sinong against. Sinong vote. Nagkaroon ng voting. All of a sudden. Kasi hindi ko naman nakikita. They're just talking. May narandaman ng kilabot. Pero... I don't hear anything.
17:53Yung... Window namin. Yung sliding glass. Okay. Na... Window. We were all in the sofa. Tapos... Parang may sumuntok na malakas. Yung almost at the breaking point. Hmm. Tapos yung nagbabibrate pa yung window. Sabi ko hindi pwedeng maging salabas yun. Kasi... First off. Tatamaan nila yung sasakyan ko. At saka malayo. And... At 4am. Sino mong babato nun? And also the sound came inside. Hmm.
18:23From the kitchen. Sinuntok yung ano. Parang... Parang binato. Or parang... Basta may malakas na force. As if yung manig. Hmm. And... So... So to speak. Naayos. Nagkaroon ng kasunduan. Apparently. Nagkaroon ng division sa territory. Then at 6am. Biglang naghunihan yung mga kuliglig. Okay. For the first time in my life. Ngayon ka lang ako nakarinig ng kuliglig na naghunihan ng 6 in the morning na may araw na.
18:53Oo. Usually it's a day. So... Those are my experiences with what Nisha is. Yung pagabsorb ko. Eventually tatanong ko sa kanya yung ano. Kung... Paano yung communication niya? So he hears them. Sabi niya he doesn't see it. But he... Translator po ay siya ano. Kasi full spectrum siya. So wala siyang naririnig rin. Nafil niya lang yung proximity. Parang echolocation niya sabi niya. Parang ganun. Kasi nakita ko yung parang...
19:23Ano ba to? Sabi niya yung to be very relaxed. So mag-gear ka. Then try to close your eyes. Then look. Nakita ko yung entity niya. Nasa desierto. Parang sobrang laking... Anin... Hindi. Parang... Monster. Parang ang liit ko is para kung ano. One inch. Tapos yung ano isang building. Yung laki. Oo. Tapos maraming tentacles. Tapos yung each tentacle sa end may parang... Parang may ano. Parang may bunganga. Hmm. Okay.
19:53Tapos may malaking bunganga sa gitna. Then may parang humanoid na half body sa likod. Okay. Then all of a sudden, nakita ko yung entity niya. Tumingin sa akin. May mayroon sa likod ko na anino na kumatak sa akin. Away. Hmm. Sabi ni Misha. If you went close... If you stayed longer, you'll be eaten. Tawang ganon. All consuming entity. Ano? So yun. Ang tawag ng kaibigan namin doon. Tagabagyo rin. Hindi ko na lang papangalan ako sa ayaw. Ano raw. Ang tawag niya sa entity ni Misha is babuy daw.
20:26Kasi it repeats everything in the surrounding. Pag hindi kinokontrol niya siya. So... Miker Mama, may question ka. If... I'm not sure if I heard correctly. You said na naging kaibigan mo na yung tikbalang. If yes, how do you communicate with him or it? Do you communicate throughly? Do you communicate somewhere? Another way? Or ano? Throughly most of the time. Tapos minsan, nung medyo... After noon,
20:56mag-waltan ako sa Teres, mag-iossi. Para kami maririnig na... Pag-iossi. Anong ganon. Pero hindi from the heart. From the ears eh. Parang galing sa inside. Or from the brain. Parang... Not sure if that's... Ano? That's telepathy or something. Pero... Until now, I'm trying to discover it. Kung ano ba talaga siya. Kasi until now, I have skepticism. Ano? May tama na ba yung utako? Or what that? So... I'm still trying to figure it out. Pero every time... Na mag-a-drive ako.
21:26Palabas. Kasi yung kuno niya is nandun sa may clubhouse. Every time... Hindi ko lang. Kung imagination ko na lang. Even though na parang... Hindi ko siya iniisip. Bigla na lang parang may bubulong. Na... Parang mga sa'yo tao. Saan punta? Saan galing? Yun yung usually. Tapos minsan, tumatambay kami ng anak ko dun sa may puno niya. We feel... We feel safe. Even though... Nararamdam mo may kilabot na takot ka. Yung parang nakakatakot na kilabot.
21:57Pero... Pag ina-analyse ng utak mo parang... Hindi ko ma-explain eh. The actual feeling. Pero hindi ka matatakot. Pero yung kilabot... Or yung... Ano ba? Yung reaction ng body mo is dapat kang tumakbo. Or dapat kang matakot.
22:16Pero you feel... Parang safe ka? Parang ganoon? I'm not sure po. Ibalik ko lang kay Enzo. Enzo, you were saying... Parang nag-agree ka dun sa... Sensation ni Greg yung... Eating. Tama ba? Did I tell you the story about... Yung... The guy that... Came back... To the house. Parang na ano siya... Nag-curse ng isang... Encanto. And then he came...
22:46Back really late. Ah! Tama! Yes! I remember that. You mentioned that in your episode. Yung... Late na bumalik siya sa house nyo. Tapos tinulungan mo siya tapos... Ang dami mo nakita. Yeah. Yeah, because... A shaman... A shaman said... To bring him back to... The house. Because if... Long story... This guy wanted to... He wanted to get more bed and breakfast areas... About your... For his... Company.
23:16And then... He asked to stay the night... To check the place. And then the next day... They left. Yes. And then... We thought everything was great na... Tapos... Ayun, he got sick. And then they called us... Saying that... Needs to... He needs to come back... For some reason. Yes. So... When they came over with the taxi... It's a Innova... Sa Baguio. I noticed like... Parang may maliit na bata... They're not really a child.
23:46Look like an old man... In a... Child body. And then... Nasad... Nasad... Nasad... He's in the back... Of the Innova... Like the extra seats... Tapos... He was... Parang clinging... And staring lang at the guy... And then... My partner was like... Maybe we should... No... We should... Give it... An offering... Para mawala siya... I was like... Yeah... So...
24:16She ran down... And got mangoes... Sa... Kitchen namen... While I was trying to talk to the... Entity... Tapos... Ayun... I told her to... Go away... And then... In exchange for mangoes... After it left... After we brought it out the dome... Sa... Bahay namen... And I told the guy... He was not okay... But then... And when I touched... Me... For maybe... For me...
24:46It's more metaphysical... Mine... I need to... Touch... The person... Grabe... The taste... It's really... Earthy... Pero on fire ka... Ah... Okay... I don't know how to explain it... It's like... Tapos you got sick after no... Tama ba? I am... So... I absorbed... The curse... Or whatever it gave... So... My... My vision was... Medyo blurry... Parang... You know the vignette... Yung black... Oo...
25:16Oo... Oo... Pero... When that happened to me... I got weak... And yung mga... Dark... Entities... Inside the dome... The ones beside... The ones in my cousin's area... I will tell you this story... Okay... There... There are not so nice things... In my cousin's house... Okay... Parang... Parang... Everything bad... This is the angel... Story... Yes... Yes... Where... As in... I started hearing them...
25:46I started hearing... Maniacal laughter... That parang... I knew... I was... Parang... It's like... They're going to gang up on... Yes... We were in danger... I remember this... Yeah... Fight or flight... Oh... I was like... Okay... I think... I can go down the mountain... Without getting hurt... And... Let alone... My partner's with me... So... When I prayed... That's when the... Three... Three pillars of light... Parang... Poor one...
26:16No... When they... Summon the Bifrost... Yeah... That's how I can recall it... Pero... When... That happened... Overwhelming naman yung joy... And love... You know... Like when you're...