DBG Times for February - Ep661

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1:30This is the Decibel Geek Podcast with Chris Sinzak and Aaron Camaro. It is time for the times. That's right. The Decibel Geek Times. Why would you want to pay attention to the times? Well, it's important to pay attention to the times. Because, I mean, it goes on around us. All the time. That's right. My name is Aaron Camaro.

2:01Joined, as always, by my good friend Chris Sinzak. The times are important, my friend. And we've got to remember the ones who've passed. We've got to talk about album anniversaries. I've got a whole bunch of really cool new albums coming our way. And it's all covering the entire month of February. You ready to rock and roll with the times with me? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So, with so much to get to, we better get right to it. And we start off like this, like we always do, with Rockstar Death Days. All right. It's February, 2026.

2:33These are some of the folks you definitely want to remember this time of year. Because it's important that we keep their legacies alive by remembering them, even though they're gone. Start with this one. Probably one of the most important faces in punk rock history. I say faces because he was more of a poster boy than he really was a musician. But, man, you look at some of the young kids today. You see a lot of Sid Vicious in a lot of them. You know what I mean?

3:04Oh, yeah. For sure. Sid Vicious passed away in February of 1979 at the young age of 21. He was a replacement bass player for the Sex Pistols. But, I mean, he was so messed up. He was like the quintessential punk rocker. Looked crazy. Acted crazy. Did a ton of drugs. And was just out of control. That's the poster boy for punk rock. Yeah.

3:34Poster boy is the right term. Because he had really no musical talent. No interest in getting better at playing bass, from what I've gathered. And was so hopelessly addicted to heroin that it ruled his entire life. So, I mean, if anything, he had the right look. He got dragged into the spot. Malcolm McLaren, the manager of the band that put them together and then trotted them out on tour in the U.S., putting them in saloons of all places, like purposely to piss people off.

4:05Malcolm McLaren's an evil motherfucker. Look what he did to the New York Dolls as well. Well, you know, gets a lot of credit, but, like, not a good guy. But the Sex Pistols, yeah, I don't know. Never got into them much. But, yeah, Sid, such a tragic story. The guy pretty much never had a chance, it seems. No, man. When he died, of course, it was a heroin overdose. And it happened right after he got released from prison.

4:35So, I mean, he's, yeah, he's just messed up. And, like I said, you know, he's what you think of. I remember being a kid. Remember in the stores where they'd have the things where you could flip through and look at the posters? I didn't know nothing about punk rock, but I knew who Sid Vicious was. Well, they're another band where probably sold more T-shirts and posters than albums. Although that, never mind the bollocks, did sell a lot. But it felt like it was more of an image-based fandom than for real love of the music.

5:06But now people are going to scold me saying, I'm a Sex Pistols fan. Good for you. Well, I mean, I see both sides of that because, I mean, there's, on that album, there's some songs that I really like a lot because the hooks in the guitars, you know, it's like, it's got an awesome tone to the guitar. And there's some pretty hooky stuff. On the other side of that, punk rock's supposed to be this thing that's so underground and so, like, you know, it's so cool that you can't understand it. But when I look at the Sex Pistols, I say, this is kind of like a boy band situation where this was really prefabricated and then presented as a thing.

5:48Yeah, but they were created that way. But at the same time, they all believed in their anti-establishment-ness. Like, they were all, even Steve Jones, who grew up to be a pretty respectable guy, pretty rough characters, all of them, back in the day. But, I don't know, although Johnny Rotten has proven to be a lot smarter than people gave him credit for as well. That's true. But, yeah, I don't know. Sid Vicious, man, that's a sad story.

6:20And if you've never seen, you know, the Sid and Nancy movie with Gary Oldman, it's worth watching. And making an uncredited cameo at the end walking with them is Courtney Love. Speaking of recent stories. How ironic. Don't you think? Don't you think?

6:38Don't you think? Don't you think? Don't you think? Don't you think? Don't you think? Don't you think? Don't you think?

7:18Don't you think? All right, from there, we got to jump back to 1998, man. One of my favorite guitar players, dude. This guy was so cool, I even met him one time. Talking about slaughtered guitarist Tim Kelly. Died at the age of 35 in a car accident. Man, I love Tim Kelly. If I had to choose between Tim Kelly and Vinnie Vincent for my band, I would go Tim Kelly every single day.

7:50Well, he definitely would be less of a headache. That's for sure. And I think, in a lot of ways, a better guitar player. When you look at Slaughter versus Vinnie Vincent Invasion, with Vinnie Vincent Invasion, it's like, here's a song built around a guitar solo. But what Tim Kelly is able to do is take a song and make a perfect guitar solo that suits the song in the best way possible. Yeah, he always played for the song first. I bet you Mark and Dana just loved the hell out of him

8:22when they met him. Yeah, and Slaughter, part of the bill of my first ever concert. So I'll always remember seeing Tim Kelly shredding those solos live. So I consider myself fortunate to have been able to see him. Right on. I met Tim Kelly for like five minutes, maybe like years ago. Had to have been, hmm, late 90s, I would think, at a place called the Checkered Flag in Appleton, Wisconsin. It was a cool bar that had an outdoor stage. And, I mean, you could just hang out out there.

8:54And then the bands would play. It was very cool. And I forget what it was. I want to think it was Vince Neil and Slaughter and somebody else. And, like, me and my buddy Jason are just kind of standing there shooting the shit. And all of a sudden, this guy comes up and says, What's up, dudes? And we look, and it's Tim Kelly. And we're like, Holy shit, Tim Kelly. And he's like, Oh, right on, you know. And it was like he appeared, talked to us, and disappeared. And it was like, Was that real? Was that really Tim Kelly?

9:25Yeah, it was him. What a nice guy. That's cool. Yeah, it's a damn shame he's gone. We'll be right back.

9:59And it was like, Oh, right on, you know. You said you needed a band like me. I'm going out of my head. Over you. Now I find myself sitting so lonely. Out of my head. Over you. But every time I keep fighting, I'm lonely. Out of my head. Over you. Yeah.

10:29From there, here's another one that the KISS fans really got to remember.

11:00Pretty important dude in KISS-tory. We lost him back in 2022. He made it to 70. Man, what an awesome guy. Former guest on the Decibel Geek Podcast. An all-around good dude, Big John Hart. Yeah. That was an honor getting to talk to him and then later meet him at the convention in Atlanta, speaking of Vinnie Vincent. Such a cool guy, man. That was probably my highlight of that whole thing, other than hanging out with my friends and partying with everybody and having a good time.

11:33But just kind of, that dude had like a presence about him. I don't know, like, what do they call that? That OMSR or whatever, that tingly feeling you get when you talk to somebody? ASMR. ASMR. I totally had that just standing next to him, talking to Big John. Like, this is the guy from the photos with KISS back in the day, you know, covering up their faces and all that. You know, and we'd already spoken to him over the phone, but, man, there's just some kind of vibe off that guy that was so, it just felt good to stand next to him

12:04and talk to him. My favorite thing about him was just that he, you know, and obviously, you know, to him, he's just like, hey, I was a security guard and a truck driver, guys. But I love that he did not, because he, you know, it's one of those rare, KISS is one of the only bands where, like, the security guard can become a celebrity. You know, it just, because the fan base is so obsessive. Like, he really could have become a big-headed guy about it and done, you know, meet Big John at the convention and $30 an autograph and all, and he wasn't like that at all.

12:36He was a very down-to-earth guy. And, yeah, it just, it was just so cool to get to meet him and get my own photograph of him covering my face and holding his hand down. I was just going to say, I was just going to say, that photo is so awesome. I wish I had thought of that. I would just stand next to him, but pure genius to have him cover your face and point at the camera, man. Yeah, he could have charged $50 for that if he wanted to. I probably paid it. I probably would have, too. But, yeah, I'll always cherish that picture. Much too much

13:10Someone you can't fight I've been inside You can't believe your eyes What you heard, the word not lies I'm too much to hold I can't be part or sold I'm far more than a man I'm going to make you understand I'm a lover than the word not lies

13:42You can't believe your eyes What you heard, the word not lies My love is too much to hold Too much to hold My love is larger than life Ooh, larger than life My love is larger than life I'm a lover than life My love is too much to hold

14:17It can't be so Oh, no It was 2003 when one of the most terrible things that ever happened in rock history the Station Nightclub Fire where a hundred people lost their lives at a great white concert including guitarist Ty Longley

14:48who died that night at the age of 31 Now, his son is a grown man now I'm Facebook friends with Ty's widow and I think she's listened to the show before like she would comment on stuff once in a while but yeah, he's a grown man now but yeah, she's done a lot to keep his memory alive and posting about him and that was awful that was one of those you don't forget where you were when you heard the news of that and yeah, there's a documentary that came out

15:21I don't remember I think I might have watched it on Tubi or something but it's about the Station Nightclub Fire and I would recommend watching it if you really want a whole story of it because they talk to some of the victims' families and some of the survivors too but just be ready because it is a brutal watch it's really hard to get through I can only imagine I don't know if I'd want to watch that Well, like I said I still would recommend it because I felt like I got something out of I understood it more

15:52hearing from the family and survivors on it and it was good that they got a voice in the whole thing and you see I mean, obviously we all know the legal proceedings and how all that played out and it covers that but you also hear about people representing the owners so it's like you get a ton of information and it's heartening to hear what the survivors and victims' families say so it's worth watching but like I said it's rough to get through The thing that I always take away from it is

16:23man, it was 2003 and these people were going to see Great White Yeah, they were the true rock fans They were like us I mean, that could have been us that could have been any one of us because we would be going to see Great White in 2003 It also really shows how how far things had fallen for those guys because the place was it was a tinderbox I mean, it was not apparently like it would have failed all codes

16:54even going into the show Yeah So and like a lot of the bands we loved they had to resort to playing you know, venues like that at the time it was a brutal time for the music we love That's for sure that is for sure because I mean and I can tell you I grew up in Merrill, Wisconsin you know, which is a small place and growing up like people assume like oh, Aaron Camaro's been to all the concerts Oh man, how many times have you seen Van Halen? Never How many times have you seen Metallica? Never You know, ACDC?

17:26Never Why? Because I grew up in this small town in the middle of Wisconsin but by around the late 90s early 2000s well now all the bands that I love that used to play arenas when I first discovered them are now so far down on the totem pole they're actually coming to Wausau, Wisconsin to play at a club somewhere and you know what? As sad as it was because you'd think man, these are my favorite bands and they're not getting the love they used to get it's kind of selfish to go

17:57this is awesome because now I can finally see them and I'm working at the radio station at that point so like I'm getting to see Cinderella and Rat and Jackal and all these bands that aren't playing arenas anymore are finally coming to my little neck of the woods that never got no love back in the day so I mean in 2003 if Great White was playing in my town I can guarantee you I'd have been there I likely would have been there too

18:27and if you want to check out more stuff from Ty Longley he played on that Samantha 7 album with Cece the Village which is really good oh yeah yeah that is a good album so gotta give out the love to Ty Longley and of course everybody that we lost all the rock and rollers caught in the station nightclub fire in 2003 golden days are gone but I forgot after all it's not like life is wrong

18:58too far gone never be the same I'm dreaming about me and you in golden days of rain I'm drowning in golden days of rain golden days of rain golden days of rain far away golden days of rain golden days of rain golden days of rain

19:30far away from you all right so then from there let's go back to I mean there's so many it's tough to do it

20:01when you're covering the whole month Mark Lanigan from the Screaming Trees back in 2022 at the age of 57 man this guy he partied man drugs and alcohol his whole life man non-stop yeah lived very hard but then one day he decides to get sober and he'd been sober for over 10 years so I mean he's doing really good until 2020 you all remember COVID that shit almost killed him it left him

20:32in a bad bad way so I mean he's gotta do something I mean he's almost dead from COVID his body's all screwed up he'll never be the same so he decides to move to Ireland and about the time he gets there man it's over for him so I mean maybe it was the account that he destroyed himself for most of his life and then caught you know back then some people it didn't do nothing to some people would absolutely

21:02destroy he was one of those and COVID pretty much just destroyed him and so at the age of 57 we lost Mark Lanigan yeah that whole that whole year or two yeah so many people dying it was just crazy but yeah it'd be weird to look back on that year that year alone to look back on the deaths it was a lot yeah we lost a lot of people over those years it wasn't all the COVID but I mean that shit didn't help but it was like

21:33celebrity deaths fast and furious through those those years yeah they say the devil was paranoid I was trying to cover but God was leaking through the stereo between the station the station you believe it I know you do you won't really say so I know

22:04I know that God isn't real just repeating the slogan you come back another day and do no wrong you come back another day and do no wrong you come back another day and do no wrong you come back

22:35another day and do no wrong I know you can hear you come back over there you can hear whatever you are you can hear you can hear you them but you say you can hear you come back you can hear so can hear let's see what else damn there's a lot um you can plow through a few in a row if you want we

23:26don't have to expound on them all right i would say i would just run through the list and then wrap it up with one pretty important one wayne kramer from the mc5 at least he lived to 75 years old the sensational one alex harvey at that young age of 47 heart attack on his birthday back in 1982 um pat torpey from mr big that poor guy got parkinson's disease he did a lot but probably best known as the drummer mr big here's a guy we've talked about before crazy story this guy

23:58was considered to be like he could have been one of the most well known and most revered drummers out there but in 1987 at the age of 32 tony destra dies in a terrible car accident and he played drums for cinderella and britney fox before they made it big uh here's one of my favorites we talk about her from time to time only because i'm in love with her even though she's gone she lived to 77 sexy funky rock singer from the 70s betty davis wow carl cochran i mean he did some stuff with ace fraley

24:34had his own band what was it voodoo land i think it was called uh yeah i think so really good album man i found it at a goodwill and i was like i think this is carl cochran and it is and it's a really good album you ought to check that out i think ace fraley even appears on that weird story with him but yeah weird car accident but he had some pretty serious health issues going on that happened back in 2025 peter tork from the monkeys diagnosed with head and neck cancer in 2009 but makes it another 10

25:05years to 2019 howie epstein from tom petty and the heartbreakers 47 years old way too old to be doing heroin but i mean that guy did a lot of drugs i mean you gotta know that you're doing a lot of drugs when you're getting kicked out of the heartbreakers in 2002 yeah for sure like all them guys died of drug overdoses including tom petty himself let's see uh david byron back in 1985 at 38 classic uriah

25:37heap singer he got fired for hard drinking that's another one you know you're getting kicked out of uriah heap because you drink too much wow that's something um this is especially sad one because he was so young back in 1990 dave pritchard the co-founder of armored saint awesome guitarist 26 years old leukemia that's a heartbreaker right there because i mean he was so young and so good i can't imagine like yeah he could have gone on to do so much great stuff i i wonder how what armored saint's future

26:13would have looked like if he had survived i don't know i mean because he was very very important to that band like not just as this amazing guitar player which he was he was incredible he was a good songwriter too you know he contributed a lot to that early armored saint so i mean could they have like broken over you know maybe if he lived john bush would have never joined anthrax he maybe never would have had to because armored saint would have got big the what ifs are what if-able and then of course finally this one's a big important one

26:51back in 1980 february at the age of 33 it's the classic death by misadventure the one and only because there's never going to be anybody else quite like him bond scott it always comes up like somebody will ask you like what bands were the hurt the most by losing a member or what bands you know gained the most by changing a member this one always kind of blows

27:25my mind because it defies all logic oh yeah it defies all logic to me going back because acdc losing bond scott on paper that should have been the end like they should have never been able to carry on no matter who they got after bond scott because who can truly replace bond scott but not only did they replace they're so unique so iconic i mean at the time they were up and

27:59coming band but in retrospect so iconic i guess but this such a unique talent songwriter i mean so good bond scott's one of those singers that like he's singing and you can hear what he's saying but you can also feel what he's saying too in a lot of those songs and he dies and the band replaces them and they become bigger than ever it defies all logic well and they also become bigger

28:32than ever with the guy that bond scott specifically told them to replace him with if he ever died yeah so to me it's a destiny thing it's like fate and destiny or the universe or whatever you want to call it it's not that acdc was their story was just beginning and it's just like it's crazy that they fat that you can't pick a better replacement than brian johnson for him and don't get me wrong i will always prefer bond over brian um bond also had charisma and swagger just in you know tenfold of almost

29:08anyone else him and him and david lee roth were like the two most charismatic guys in my opinion of that era you gotta have that to front a band like acdc yeah like if when angus young goot you know doing his chuck berry dance all over the damn stage and you know that you you need somebody with a lot of swag to to front that band yeah it's pretty wild man that guy is i miss him i never even knew him i only knew him through his music to me man you can't beat that old acdc with bond scott it's so

29:44good since bond scott's died i mean yeah acdc's still good but you can't touch that early stuff no and i i get if just we want an example of bond scott swagger uh just watch the video for let there be rock where they're all wearing the the church clothing and have the halo over their head and just bond scott's close-up just smiling at the camera it's just like even that was like its own character in the video yeah yeah he just he had this mischievous smile where he's like yeah this guy's

30:16up to fucking no good but but you still love him yeah and he's the guy that should have been irreplaceable but by fate and by some kind of magic acdc goes on to become even bigger than they ever were before which i gotta imagine i mean that was the trajectory anyway had bond lived i still think that next album back in black would have been massive but then again you know his passing away maybe gave that band a whole lot of media attention that they might not have got otherwise so

30:49maybe bond scott dying had a lot to do with people hearing about acdc for the first time well and the album's called back in black and it's you know in his honor and let's also not overlook the mutt lang factor yeah true but that guy he was a genius you know everything he touched turned to gold especially in those days so and the fact that that album's just loaded full of good songs there ain't nothing to skip on back in black every song sounds like it could have been a single man i wish i if i just wish bond scott i'd love to hear like there's always like the rumor of oh

31:26bond scott helped write some of those songs and you know there might be some deep demos hidden somewhere that somebody has in their attic with bond scott singing on some of those songs i would love to hear that that's a hotly debated subject yeah and there's books that have been written one way and books that have been written the other so uh yeah i don't know i've heard from different sources that yes he did write lyrics or yes they already demoed songs with him but i've also heard he had nothing to do with any of it so who knows yeah none of it's ever come to light and so that leads me to

32:01believe that it's probably not true but you never know man if it's out there holy shit would i love to hear that i'd i'd like if you're in the comment section and you like you were a teenager when all this went down because i because i aaron and i were both probably too young to really know what weren't following music like like you guys were like what was it like to be an acdc fan bond scott dies you're thinking who the fuck is brian johnson and you know the album hasn't come out yet when it comes out were you determined to hate it basically and how long into that album were you like i gotta admit

32:36this is really great or did it take you a while to even admit it was great did you hate listen for a while that's awesome i love being sight like that yeah i'd just be curious to know like if you were a 16 year old what what did you think back then oh what would you get for me i swear to be it for me

33:06oh my god i want you to think back then you want or not to be it for you but with the hair i don't mind i don't mind though i have it i don't want to pray i don't want none of that hard stuff don't need any more i'm in love and i'm sick of fast and i don't need no cure i overbose on you i hope i'm in love and i'm sick of fast and i don't need no cure i överbose on you Don't need it anymore I'm in love and I'm sick and fast And I don't need no cure I overdose on you I overdose on you

33:36Crazy but it's true Ain't nothing I can't do I overdose on you

33:50I overdose on you

34:20All right, so there you have it Those are your rock star death days Why do we put ourselves through this? Because it's important to remember these people You know, they're gone But their legacies are important And as long as we keep talking about them As long as we keep listening to the music They live on forever in our hearts

34:52So that's why we do the rock star death days So when you get done with rock star death days What do you do? You look to have a little more fun Something a little more upbeat And that is album anniversaries I got a bunch of really good ones here We're going to talk about Let's start out with this one 10 year anniversary For Anthrax's For All Kings Came out in 2016 It's their 11th full length studio album Six years back

35:23For Joey Belladonna This is the follow up to 2010's Worship Music It's the first album with John Danaeus And he's been in the band for three years But man, this is a solid album Great guitars Joey's got powerful vocals This is crazy This is the highest charting album from Anthrax Since The Sound of White Noise Pretty cool They did have a pretty good promotional push for that one And I think the modern music industry

35:56Kind of works in Anthrax's favor now Because you don't have to be backed And given so much attention from a major Like they got ignored for all those years That they were on a major So it's kind of great That they can get a little bit of shine now Even if it's done differently The last two records have been really solid And it feels like they have come into their own I'm really excited to hear the new one Even though it's taken them years And they keep teasing it So it's like Release the damn thing already guys Yeah, I'm ready for it too

36:26But I was excited when Joey Belladonna came back And they said they were coming out with new albums I thought Worship Music was pretty good I actually prefer For All Kings So I mean, if that's the way it's going Everyone's going to be a little better than the one before it Then this next one should be killer And I'm really looking forward to it And John Denaeus, man I think he's perfect for Anthrax I think when he came into the band I think that's a big part of what made For All Kings Just a little bit better than what Worship Music was Yeah, and listens to the show as far as I know

36:59Right on, that's cool Well, keep up the good work, John We're looking forward to hearing the new album I'm king of blood If I kill me Soldier's stealing A simple plan Never settle Are you better? Yeah, we'll listen Fire's a-raising And the sirens scream And your pathetic life Is run out of road

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38:33You give them hell You give them hell You give them hell You give them hell You give them hell You give them hell You give them hell

38:46all right from there let's jump back 15 years to 2011 for the debut album from the band Orchid oh man I got some cool news but first let's talk about that debut album it's called Capricorn Orchid's journey in the doom metal scene begins in 2007 in San Francisco clearly if you've listened to this band before you know it's heavily influenced by Black Sabbath it's got that classic bluesy doom metal sound to it and man this was something I and I if I'm not mistaken

39:23and I'm pretty certain I'm right about this that it was Ian Wadley that first turned me on to the band Orchid and he's like man I know you love Sabbath you really ought to check out this band and the first time I heard it I was absolutely in love with it like my first impression of it was it's like if Blackie Lawless was the lead singer of Black Sabbath this is amazing they came out with a couple of EPs after that they followed it up with another studio album and they broke up around 2017

39:57it was like I was looking forward to new music from this band then all of a sudden they were gone but what I realized that I didn't know last year was they got back together they even played some West Coast shows last year so Orchid please I'm begging you if you're listening I'm begging you new music please this band is so good and I love them so much it is one of those bands like people say yeah rock

40:27ain't what it used to be metal ain't what it used to be but then a band like Orchid comes around I go yeah it is look at this band they're new and they're amazing and then they break up and go away like what the hell oh yeah a lot of that through the years of this show although we love the ones that that stick together and all I really love the ones that get back together so um but yeah Ian Wadley I was going to mention he's also the person that got me into them so yeah Ian's recommended a lot of great bands over the years yeah I especially love Orchid and I'm happy they're back together I started looking

41:00to see if they're playing around but like they said they're from San Francisco they kind of stick around over there on the West Coast so if you're out there keep your eyes open for Orchid and then when you see him tell him Aaron Camaro demands new music and they'll go who the fuck is that they say you don't want to find out so just do what he says he's the guy that slipped off the wrestling ring in Wisconsin that time no that was somebody else somebody else that's VIP hey if you're a decibel geek VIP guess what you're getting video now yeah right before we started recording

41:35this we did a whole almost an hour long video stepping into the modern age with not just audio but video too we're on the cutting edge of shit I will take a victory lap for that segue because that was good gotta promote that stuff you know the VIPs are special we don't give them a whole lot but when we do we try to make it good tell you from the first time you even tried to grow old that you were born to save us from

42:16all of the series 16 anything an deal also the other you Won't even start to slow our fall Not this time

42:47And all the blood we spill Are some too tight and thousand times Won't see the eyes behind the wall

43:02The eyes behind the wall Don't wanna see the eyes behind the wall The eyes behind the wall The eyes behind the wall The eyes the heart It has a heart The eyes bright and powerful The eyes beyond justice And orthodox The eyes behind the wall

43:32The eyes behind the wall The eyes behind the wall And it aja To the eye The eyes behind the wall The eyes behind the wall Oh that's not the cover Your time I hateям I hateya Every emotion Between the eyes I hateya all right from there let's jump back 30 years to 1996 I got three of them here

44:15pretty big deals in 96 well maybe not that big of a deal but still pretty important stuff let's start out with this one it's the third full-length solo album from Bruce Dickinson it's Skunk Works now technically Skunk Works was supposed to be the band name but you know how it works ask Tony Iommi when you go I'm Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden but I'm gonna start a new band I'm gonna call it Skunk Works and the label goes to hell you are we're putting Bruce Dickinson on it you can call the album Skunk Works if you don't like it don't release it

44:48well he's gonna go along with it it's Bruce Dickinson's Skunk Works it's an anti-maiden album if you bought this and you thought this is gonna be awesome because Bruce Dickinson's an Iron Maiden and I love his stuff there and his solo stuff is always kick-ass and rocking this is gonna be amazing oh wait a minute it's 1996 this is Bruce Dickinson's grunge album well I mean it was produced by Jack and Dino yeah Jack and Dino from the Screaming Trees Soundgarden producing albums by Nirvana

45:22yeah crazy right Bruce pours his heart and soul into this album like he thought this was the greatest thing he'd ever done he truly believed in his heart that this thing was gonna be so widely acclaimed that it would eclipse anything he did with Iron Maiden over the years sad thing is it's 1996 nobody cared this is the guy from Iron Maiden this is Bruce Dickinson this album doesn't even chart in the U.S.

45:56super popular in Finland but man nowhere else you know you know I kind of wish I had been a critic back then because uh well that you could do you could do a one-word review for this and that would sum it up you could say Skunk Works stinks stinks it ain't terrible I mean there's some kind of stuff on there I really just wanted to make the joke but I know I don't hate it it's but just like a lot of artists it was a lot of a lot of these older artists trying to compete with what was going on

46:28at the time and sometimes with mixed results some albums are great some weren't just really depends on uh how open-minded you are to them changing directions right and then in 1996 it doesn't matter if this is the greatest album ever recorded because the record label makes them call it Bruce Dickinson and so people go oh it's like Iron Maiden but here I am in 1996 and I'll give no damns about Iron Maiden and that was the majority of people listening to music I mean we still cared but yeah

47:02the majority sure didn't the poor band I mean after this is over it's a failed experiment you know Bruce Dickinson he's of course going to go back to Maiden but then the rest of the band like what are we going to do they become a band called Sack Trick you ever heard of that I remember them yeah that's the that's the skunk works band I did not know that yeah so 1996 man I read this and I felt bad for him because like Bruce is like this is it this is going to be so huge I love this I'm

47:33so proud of it it's going to be massive it's going to be bigger than Iron Maiden your eyes are black as they see the red ball of the sun and they're blind and I'm and the red ball of the sun and they're blind or the distance and the red ball hung and blue Uhm and I'd like two whirl and three times

48:04you're blind hide I fall or like sand I'm banana job for hidden or listen Although I love that year in music

48:34because there was a lot of great stuff that did get released that year. But for a lot of the old favorites, it was a rough time. Speaking of which, that's a hell of a segue right there as well. We're going to go to the sixth full-length studio album from Enough's Enough. How do you think Enough's Enough was doing in the U.S. in 1996? About as good as you would imagine. Yeah, probably about as good as Skunk Works. The album's called Peach Fuzz. It's released in Japan in January and then the United States in February.

49:07It's kind of a weird thing because the album Animals with Human Intelligence, well, that could have been a double album. These are mostly songs not used on the Animals with Human Intelligence album. Plus, it's got that awesome Christmas song Happy Holiday on it, which was meant for the Home Alone 2 soundtrack, but for whatever reason, didn't quite make it on there. Tough times for Enough's Enough. Not so bad in Japan. It goes to number 78. This album's kind of got a more laid-back vibe to it,

49:39mostly, but it's got one of my favorite Enough's Enough songs and one of the heaviest things they ever did, a song called You're Not Me. And man, I love it. This was one, like I said, 96. I'm going to the record store going, hey man, Enough's Enough's got a new album coming out. They're like, can I interest you in some Smashing Pumpkins? How about some Beck? No, no. I still want Enough's Enough.

50:04Do you ever see the video, was this the one that had There Goes My Heart on it? Mm-mm. What album was that one on? 10, I think. 10? Yeah, that'd be a couple years later from now. I watched the video for that not long ago, and like, man, it's one of those things where even when you feel like they did everything right, it's just not the right time. Because that song, it may not be one of your favorites, but it was very radio-friendly. It's like, why did that not chart? It's kind of crazy. Just because they were Enough's Enough,

50:35and that album must have come out in the 2000s somewhere, you know? So, I mean, probably did pretty good in Japan, I'm betting. But, yeah, Enough's Enough was just a band that was, I don't know, man. The songs are so good, and they're so talented, and they're so catchy, that a lot of their songs could be classics, if the timing had been right. Yeah, a lot of it's timing, and, well, and behavior, as we know. And behavior,

51:06yeah, Donnie V. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ever since I was a little boy, I've been out on my own. Ever since you've been a little girl, you've never been alone. Don't try to look into my head and tell me how I feel. Just give me space and find your place or find another deal. Cause I've been good. I'll give you everything. I've understood. When you do anything. So pay the wood. I'll make you quiet, say.

51:36And you're bad, bad, bad, baby, please I'm on my knees Records and bees Be a sad, sad, sad girl I'm not you and you're not me That's the way it'll always be See the weather, shine and see I'm not you and you're not me I'm not you and you're not me

52:09Cause you're the lock and I'm the key You're living in a fantasy I'm not you and you're not me

52:34Alright then I got one more from 1996 You think Bruce Dickinson's got it bad? You think Enough's Enough is having problems? Well, let's talk about Deep Purple They're back with their 15th full length studio album

53:08So you know the story You know Deep Purple starts out And they're kind of popular But then they change lead singers to Ian Gillen And then they get mega popular And then later on in years towards the late 70s Then all of a sudden you got Glenn Hughes And David Coverdale in the band And that's like a completely different band But then by the time that all comes to an end And those guys are so drugged out That they have to kill We have to kill Deep Purple Before Deep Purple kills us

53:39That means that band's name It lays dormant for years Until finally The classic Mark II reunion happens And at this point It's been going on for five years And then Blackmore's gonna fire Ian Gillen Because those two Man, they just can't get along So they auditioned a bunch of new singers Including Brian Howell of Bad Company And this I didn't know Doug Pinnock of King's X Wow How crazy would that have been? Doug Pinnock from King's X As the lead singer of Deep Purple?

54:10I would've liked that That's probably what they thought too That's crazy We can't do that Let's hire Joe Lynn Turner