100 Objects #3: The Pension Files

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1:00The year is 1863. It's June 2nd, and it's 4 o'clock in the morning. Light is beginning to creep into the sky, but the full moon still hangs heavy, its reflection bright in the winding Combahee River. And it's by this light that an old man, rail thin, leaves his cabin, joining his wife and the other enslaved men and women heading out to work the South Carolina rice fields. The slave cabins are about a mile from the rice fields.

1:31That's Pulitzer Prize winning historian Dr. Etta Fields Black. They would have walked a mile through grass and moss infested with snakes in the dark. And then they would be standing in the rice fields, which were infested with alligators. The old man named Minus Hamilton ignores the snakes and the alligators and begins to hoe. This morning is like any other. Birds call from reeds, mosquitoes buzz.

2:02The horse carrying the overseer flicks its tail. But then, everything changes. Minus Hamilton sees the U.S. Army gunboats coming up the river. U.S. Army gunboats coming up his river and docking at the edge of the plantation. And Minus cannot believe who he sees coming out of the vessel. Minus Hamilton sees young Black men in uniform for the first time.

2:33And he's completely awestruck by this. To see these armed Black men who have come to liberate him. And he identifies them as the Brack soldiers so presumptuous. Presumptuous. Minus repeats this word to himself, shaking his head. He talks about their stature, how they hold their heads up. This is an 88-year-old man born in bondage who likely thought he would die in bondage.

3:08And someone who has spent his life in a subservient position. And now he sees these young, armed Black men who hold their heads up. And they march onto the plantation and begin to burn down everything that the man who held him in bondage owned. His old life is going up in flames, and a new one awaits him. So when the overseer yells at Minus to follow him into the woods, away from the soldiers, for the old man, there is no choice.

3:41Minus Hamilton basically says, Lord, I didn't care nothing at all. I was going to the boat. When Etta Fields Black came upon Minus' story, she wasn't looking for it. She was researching an entirely different project. But it suddenly came to her what he was describing. I realized that he's actually talking about the Comby Raid. The largest and most successful slave rebellion in U.S. history.

4:11The Comby River Raid was a Union military operation during the Civil War, where three boats, guided by none other than Harriet Tubman, liberated more than 700 enslaved people in a single night, including Minus Hamilton. The story of the Comby Raid is not new. But Etta had never read anything from the perspective of someone who had been freed in it. And I found the voice of Minus Hamilton. It was so striking, and it wasn't the complete account, but it was enough to really tantalize me.

4:46This was a formerly enslaved man who was telling the story of his own liberation. So that was enough. I was hooked. I wanted to know more, and I dug. She dug around for more accounts like this. But Minus' story was kind of a one-off. After the raid, a writer took a liking to him and wrote down his story. That was it. So she was kind of stuck. But through her digging, Etta came across a unique set of documents, mostly untapped by historians, that would unlock a whole world she didn't know was possible.

5:22You could say it was an accident. You could say it was serendipity. It was probably all of the above. But I stumbled upon the pension files. The pension files, meaning the records the government kept when people applied to receive a pension after serving in the Civil War. Dry, bureaucratic documents. Not exactly riveting material. But the ones Etta found contained something she wasn't expecting. Many of the men liberated in the Combine raid would go on to serve in the Union Army,

5:53like their presumptuous liberators. And in their pension applications, their names, histories, and stories are recorded for the first time.

6:06From 99% Invisible and BBC Studios, this is the history of the United States in 100 Objects. I'm Roman Mars. Today, the U.S. Army pension files and how they unlocked a whole new story of the largest and most successful slave rebellion in U.S. history. So, let's get to Harriet Tubman.

6:37She's a key player in this story. Whether or not people know of the raid, they know about Harriet Tubman. But I think it's worth pausing here to take a moment to talk about just the incredible things she did as a young woman. Could you just tell us a little bit about her? Yeah. So, Tubman is such an extraordinary, extraordinary figure. She liberated herself from bondage on the Maryland Eastern Shore in 1849. And from that point on, she made 13 trips back into the land of bondage,

7:15back to the same county and occasionally the same plantation where she had been held in bondage. These are enormous acts of selflessness. I liken it to putting one's hand in the mouth of an alligator. When she liberated herself, she had been able to take her hand out from the alligator's mouth. Most of us would just go in the opposite direction and leave the alligator alone.

7:46It's fair to say. But Tubman, 13 more times. She puts it in, she takes it out. She puts it in, she takes it out. 13 more times. I mean, who does that? She rescues about 70 people. Personally, rescues, brings out of slavery 70 people. This is the Harriet Tubman that most of us know about. But our story begins where a lot of that history ends. So, as the Civil War is nearing, and after she makes her last rescue mission,

8:23and is not able to rescue her sister and her sister's children, Tubman is being advised really to kind of cool it, right? This war is getting ready to happen. We don't know what's going to go on. At this point, Tubman is living in New York and is a well-known part of abolitionist networks. And it is through these networks that she gets a new opportunity to help. And once the war gets started, the governor of Massachusetts makes the arrangements for her to serve as a spy for the U.S. Army.

8:57A spy recruited by the Army. So, in May 1862, Harriet Tubman heads down to her first posting, a place called Beaufort, South Carolina, a town of old plantation houses, live oaks, and eerie hanging moss. It sits on Port Royal Island, one of a chain of so-called sea islands along the coast, and it has just been captured by the Union. In November 1861, the U.S. Navy captured Beaufort, Port Royal, and the Sea Islands from the Confederacy.

9:30And the next day, the U.S. Army occupied these territories. But before the U.S. Navy's ships arrived, the plantation owners, slave owners, fled. And they left behind about 8,000 enslaved people. And the U.S. Army decrees that it's not going to return the property, in quotes, of the Confederates. We're not enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act anymore.

10:01You have forfeited your property, and we're going to keep them, right? They become contrabands of war. And eventually, the U.S. Army frees all the people who were enslaved on Port Royal and the Sea Islands, creating a kind of free city. So, the U.S. Army begins to employ people who were able to work, and house, and feed, and take care of people who couldn't.

10:32So, it's in this context that hundreds of Northern abolitionists come down, opening schools, clinics, shops, churches. And this is, what's stunning to me is, this is South Carolina. Like, this is a free community deep in Confederate territory. Like, the fact that this is happening in South Carolina is really stunning. Yeah, well, I like to say it's the belly of the beast. It's sort of an oasis, but I'm sure it felt very tenuous,

11:07just because the proximity of the Confederacy. There's no buffer. There's no border. There's no barrier. It's right there. So, Beaufort and the wider Port Royal Island is becoming this experiment in what a post-slavery society might look like. But that's not the only radical experiment going on in the quintessentially Southern town. Colonel Thomas Wentworth Higginson, a famous writer and abolitionist, the one who later interviewed Minus Hamilton, described it like this.

11:38Five minutes' walk beyond the live oaks will bring you to something so un-Southern that the whole Southern coast at this moment trembles at the suggestion of such a thing. The camp of a regiment of freed slaves. For the first time in U.S. history, the Union Army is also building a company of black soldiers in Port Royal, arming and training the formerly enslaved. It's a radical idea.

12:06Higginson, who actually led the first black company, wrote, And Harriet Tubman comes down in this context. Technically, she's a Northern volunteer, but she comes down to serve as a spy. Harriet Tubman's job would be to gather intelligence for the Army from the Beaufort's growing population of people who had escaped slavery and made their way to the free oasis. This is what Harriet Tubman did.

12:39So we know that she was in downtown Beaufort working in the refugee camps. So as the freedom seekers came from the Confederate plantation, she was there to talk to them and find out what they knew. And they had a lot of information that the Union wanted and that could be beneficial to the Union. Before arriving in the refugee camps of Beaufort, many of the formerly enslaved had been made to work for the Confederate cause. Whether it was building fortifications, moving and hauling armaments,

13:14serving Confederate troops and individuals, especially officers, brought their slaves with them to camp. So they were in the camp, cooking everything, washing everything, fixing everything, building everything. And Tubman was there to debrief them, as one of the CIA commanders says. And then she passed this intelligence back to the U.S. Army commanders. Also, the Confederate Army had planted explosives along the river in case of a Union attack.

13:46Except they didn't actually do the labor. They had the people held in bondage do that. People who were now flooding into Beaufort and could tell Tubman exactly where the mines were planted. And these freedom seekers also taught Tubman about the terrain, where the river bends, where the sandbars are. Because these plantations sit on a very different landscape than the one she grew up in. When Americans, if Americans, think about slavery, we think about cotton. So the rice plantations are, and I should say the title rice plantations,

14:20they are located in the coastal wetlands. The marshland where the rice grows is home to deadly cottonmouth snakes and silent, slithering alligators. But it's also home to a much smaller, but even more deadly animal. Mosquitoes breed in water, right? And so it creates this awful, deadly disease environment. The people working these plantations often lived with chronic malaria. What happens is that malaria shatters the immune system.

14:51And so having chronic malaria means that the immune system is then not able to fight off other things, right? Something as simple as upper respiratory ailments killed otherwise healthy people. It means that women gave birth to babies who did not thrive. So children, infants are very vulnerable. Elderly people and people with compromised immune systems, very vulnerable.

15:24And so the death rates on these rice plantations are second only to sugar plantations in the Caribbean, right? Where the life expectancy was seven years. Rice plantations are second to that. There's one time of year when the mosquitoes are particularly bad. So bad that the plantation calendar is organized around it.

15:54June is the sickly season. So this is when rice is growing in the rice fields in standing water. And that stagnant water is breeding malaria. It's breeding mosquitoes and the mosquitoes carry malaria. And so white plantation owners, slave owners and overseers would leave the area by the middle of May. Almost all the white people in the area would leave the plantations and the deadly disease environment, retreating to summer homes in Charleston, leaving just a few overseers and the enslaved to keep working the fields.

16:31Even the Confederate army had reassigned its troops. There were no troops stationed on the Cumbie River. No army except two lonely soldiers monitoring the river. No plantation owners, no plantation owners, no troops. It's a pretty dang perfect time to carry out a daring raid. Can you give me a sense of what is happening in the war at this time? Like, how is it going for the Union army? What is what is the vibe like? Yeah, it's not going so well. They hadn't had a win like a real win in a while.

17:04And people were not happy. Morale was low because the Union was on the defense and couldn't seem to get back on the offense. And I think South Carolina, in a lot of ways, was a sore spot for the Union. This is where the first shots of the Civil War were fired. But a raid, now a raid, might boost morale. It would be carried out by some of the new black troops that had been training in Buford.

17:36Their aim would be to liberate more enslaved people, some of whom would join them in the army, swell the Union ranks. Their other goal was simple, to burn everything in sight.

17:51So, let's talk about the raid. Everyone at Buford has been working towards this raid for months, gathering information. They finally arrived to the night in question. Bring me to that night. So, on June 1st, at about 9 p.m. So, this is in the summertime. It's just getting pitch black dark. This is the time when the boats leave the docks in downtown Buford.

18:21And they are sailing under the light of the full moon. There are three boats, one gunboat, and two transport steamers. And the transport steamers were brought along to bring the freedom seekers back in the raid. Harriet Tubman told the Union Army that she'd come on the raid if it was led by a man named Colonel James Montgomery. Montgomery is a well-known white abolitionist, a man with a history of freeing slaves during his raids.

18:55He is a man Harriet Tubman trusts. So, that night, Tubman is up on the front boat with Montgomery. With her are eight or nine men under her command. These are her very best informants, a group of black men who would act as spies, scouts, and pilots during the raid. Then, there are the soldiers. One battery of white soldiers, and then 300 black soldiers from the 2nd South Carolina Volunteers. It's hard to imagine what these black soldiers were feeling as the gunboats pulled out from the harbor.

19:28Many of them had been enslaved on the very plantations they were returning to. Plantations where they still had family members held in bondage. They were going to war against slavery, right? They were going to war to free other people who were still enslaved.

19:47Together, under the light of the full moon, they begin to make their stealthy way up the tidal waters of the Combahee River. But very quickly, something goes wrong. One of the transport steamers ran aground, and it was about three hours until the next high tide, which could potentially have dislodged it. They couldn't sit there for three hours and be sitting ducks for whatever the Confederacy might have for them.

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24:05That's when the boat encounters the only two Confederate soldiers the Army left behind in a lonely outpost on the river. The Confederates quickly realize that they are vastly outnumbered. They fled. They fled. And there are some wonderful newspaper accounts that talk about them fleeing so quickly that they left their blankets warm. The Union soldiers on the raid knew that Confederate reinforcements would eventually arrive. So the clock was now ticking.

24:36And in the meantime, the two Union boats are right where they want it to be. They've reached the rice plantations. They make a furtive stop at a first plantation and let some soldiers out, and then continue up the river and make another stop, letting more soldiers out. The soldiers get on land. They went to the plantations and started burning things down. You know, burning down stables, barns, and the barns contained the previous year's rice harvest. They burned most of the houses, the manor houses, where the plantation owner and his family lived.

25:12They go to the rice fields and they open the gates of the hydraulic irrigation system and let in all the salt water.

25:23And they kill the rice crop that's growing in the fields. These rice plantations are considered the breadbasket of this part of the South. So as they destroy crops and burn food stores, they are dealing a massive blow to the Confederacy. But as all of this is happening, the other part of the operation begins. Not only do they disembark soldiers, but they also send out rowboats. And those rowboats bring the freedom seekers back to the boats.

25:53The black soldiers, fresh out of slavery themselves, begin to call out to the enslaved people working on the plantations. They walked up and down, waving flags, trying to attract the attention of the freedom seekers. And one of the people watching in utter amazement as this unfolds is 88-year-old Rail Thin, minus Hamilton. He describes the enslaved people being in the rice fields hoeing rice when they first saw the Union gunboats coming up the river.

26:30And he talks about an overseer being in the rice fields with them on horseback. And so the overseer is seeing exactly what the enslaved people see. And he is shouting to them that the Yankees have come and are going to sell them to Cuba. And they should follow him to the woods and hide. And Minus Hamilton basically says, everybody went the other way. I was going to the boat.

27:04Minus and his wife Hagar are both in the fields that day. Together, they make their way to the gunboat, carrying nothing with them. They really only had the clothing on their backs. He had a pair of pants and a shirt. And she only had just a single frock and a head tie. He laments that his two blankets, which are the only two things that he feels he can call his own, his two blankets are in the slave cabin and he has to leave them behind.

27:36But there is no time to waste. The freedom boat is here. So, as you can imagine, Minus Hamilton and his wife are elderly. He was likely one of the oldest people on these Cumbie rice plantations. So, as they're moving to the boat, people are coming up behind them and telling them to hurry. People are telling them that the Confederates are coming. To which Minus Hamilton's wife Hagar basically says, I'd like to see them try and stop us.

28:08She tells him to come on, right? Come on, come plenty on. We're going to the boat. We're not worried about the Confederates here.

28:19The elderly couple are giddy. Minus looks back and sees the plantation where he was held in bondage burn. Union Colonel Higginson, who later interviewed Minus, asked him how that moment felt. And Minus Hamilton laughs and says, Lord, Master, I didn't care nothing at all. I was going to the boat. You know, I, and he, he's like, I'm not looking back. I don't care. I'm leaving this all behind and I am going to freedom. But what Minus really remembered from that day were the Black men in uniform.

28:55This is when he uses that very particular word, presumptuous, and repeats it three times. The Brack soldier is so presumptuous. What do you, what do you make of that word presumptuous? It's so, it's such an interesting and cool word to use in this moment. How does it, what does it strike you? It strikes me as he's looking at them and looking at the fact that these young armed men in uniform don't have to lower their eyes.

29:32They don't have to lower their heads. They're not cowing to white people, right? Instead, they're here and they're like turning this whole world on fire, right? He likely saw them as destroying the institution of slavery. They're burning it down. And in burning it down, they are setting us free. In the meantime, Harriet Tubman is, as ever, on the front lines.

30:03We know that Tubman got out on a rowboat and went to a plantation and she went to the slave cabins. And I've said that there were enslaved people working in the rice fields. The able-bodied people, including 88-year-old Minus Hamilton and his wife, were working in the fields that early in the morning. So the people who were left in the cabins were extremely, even more elderly, but infirm, disabled children who were too young to work.

30:40Women who had recently given birth or had very young nursing infants. Those are the people who would have been left in the slave cabins. Tubman went to the cabins to get these most vulnerable people. And she remembers this wonderful image of running with the freedom seekers, running with them back to the boats. So she's helping women carry their children. And she's helping carry these two pigs, which they named after Confederate officers and which were going to be given to the Union commanders, the Union generals back in Buford.

31:23And she talks about one woman who's running. She's got, you know, children in her arms and children holding on to her skirt and one child on her shoulders. And she's got a rice pot on her head and the pot is smoking.

31:44They just pulled it off the fire. Yeah, yeah. And the child is eating in flight.

31:54It's a wonderful image. And Tubman runs through some of these like thorn bushes near the edge of the rice field and she tears her skirt. And so she laments the fact that she nearly tore her skirt off and writes a letter or has someone write a letter for her to the women of Boston, asking them to send her a pair of bloomers and telling them that she'll probably need them for another expedition. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing.

32:24She learned she just wasn't dressed for the job. Exactly. She's going in there to rescue the babies. She needs pants on. She needs pants. Yes, yes.

32:36Plantations are burning. Freedom seekers are being rowed to the boats. But this is, after all, a secret raid. And the raiders only have so much time. On one plantation, the slave owners started to fight back. The overseer was able to get some of the Confederate soldiers to follow him back to the plantation and they positioned themselves between the freedom seekers and the boat, which stopped many people from actually getting to freedom. And one enslaved girl ran for it and she was shot and killed in cold blood.

33:10The raiders are out of time. And as freedom seekers realize this, some become desperate, trying to get on the last departing rowboats. There were descriptions of them holding on to the sides of the rowboats and trying to stop the rowboats from leaving without them. And at one point, Colonel Montgomery tells Harriet Tubman to sing to your people, right, to calm them, sing to them. And she does.

33:40And they become calm and kind of let go of the sides of the rowboat. And the boat takes off without them. So we can only imagine what happened to those people, that they were tortured. Some of them may have been killed for trying to escape. Some of them may have been sold for trying to escape. So 756 people get onto the boats and the boats sail all night and arrive early in the morning back in downtown Beaufort, back at the dock.

34:21Beaufort, the oasis of freedom, now home to 10,000 formerly enslaved people living free. And on that morning that the Cumbie freedom seekers arrived back in Beaufort, people came out. People came out to see them and line the streets. And many of these people had been free, you know, for a year, years, since November 1861. They had jobs, they had houses, they had food and clothing, and their kids were in school.

34:58They had left slavery behind. And yet here were 756 people who were straight out of the rice fields, right? In the same dirty gray field clothes, as the newspapers describe them, that they wore to their forced labor at four o'clock in the morning. And the newspaper accounts talk about just their bodies, right?

35:30Skin and bones, lots of injuries. People just looked sick and emaciated and broken down and nearly naked, right? They're in horrible shape, physical shape. But it also talks about how they're beaming with pride. As they parade down the main street in Beaufort, they are beaming with pride because they are finally free.

36:05And they are finally able to reunite their families.

36:11Minus Hamilton is there, walking down the main street with his feisty wife, Hagar. So is their grown-up daughter, Bina Mack. She made it onto the boat, too, along with her husband, Harry, and their little daughter, also named Hagar. Tyra Brown Polite and Phoebe Frazier found one another among the freedom seekers. The friends had been separated, sold to different plantations along the Combi. But both made it onto the boat that day. There's an elderly couple named November and Sarah Small Osborne, childhood sweethearts, who finally made it to freedom together.

36:43There's a seven-year-old girl named Martha Singleton, and Andrew and Diana Harris still grieving for their four small children who died back on the plantation. But they made it to Beaufort that day with their only surviving child, a little boy named Samuel. I mean, how do you feel when you think about that scene?

37:13It brings tears to my eyes. It does to me, too. It really does. It really, really does. Think about what the Combi Freedom Seekers' lives were like in these ghastly death camps, labor-slash-death camps of these rice plantations. By the time they're parading down Beaufort, they finally made it.

37:43They're finally free. That day, everyone gathers at a church in downtown Beaufort, including the leaders of the raid, Colonel James Montgomery and Harriet Tubman. Colonel James Montgomery gives a speech to the Freedom Seekers, and Harriet Tubman follows him. And we don't know what she said. There's no transcript. And it's not on YouTube. Oh, if only.

38:14I know. Your life would be so much easier. So much easier.

38:19I can't even imagine. But, you know, it's after her speech that 150 men aged 14 to 70, there was one 70-year-old man who enlisted. The morning after they're liberated, they enlist in the second South Carolina Volunteers. It was a very immediate kind of thing that they came and liberated us. We are going to liberate others.

38:51And that brings us back to the pension files, where we began this story, our object that in many ways holds the stories of this raid. About 200,000 black men served during the Civil War. And after the war is over, those men, their widows, their dependent children, were entitled to military pensions, just like veterans today. And that application process was long and laborious, and it required a lot of paperwork.

39:23It didn't matter if you were a black soldier or a white soldier, you had to provide proof that you were who you said you were and that you had served. But the difference is that the black veterans and the widows were born enslaved, so they didn't have any paperwork, right? They didn't have birth certificates, marriage certificates, death certificates. What the veterans had is they had people, people they grew up with, and the men they joined the military with, and the women they married, right?

39:58And these people came out and testified for each other. And it's through their testimony that they verify each other's identity, the sanctity of their marriages, the legitimacy of their children. Who held them in bondage, who held them in bondage, and where, and how they were bought, mortgaged, given away, and passed down within families. And then they talk about their lives together, courting.

40:29They go through the veterans and the widows' entire dating history.

40:35Because they have to show that they're actually legally married to this person, right? And they're not married to those other people. You see the whole life of people in the enslaved community in ways that we've never seen them before, because now they're telling their story.

41:01Once you know that these files exist and you see them in all the oral history that they create, what do you realize you can do with these files when it comes to the raid? I realize that I can put the enslaved community back together. I realize that I can identify the people who were liberated in the raid. Those people who testified about the raid become the main characters of the story.

41:32The pension files also helped Etta rebuild her own family tree, because Etta's family hails from a county not far from Beaufort. But she didn't have much to go on, just a little research her cousin had done. When I started looking for the Fields family, I went back to the notes my cousin gave me. And I saw that he had searched through the census and identified our earliest known ancestor in the 1870 census as Hector Field.

42:05But then he was stuck. Yeah. That's as far back as he could go. So the census said that Etta had a great-great-great-grandfather named Hector. But that was kind of it. It's a dead end that people frequently hit when looking for ancestors who were enslaved. The 1870 census was the first government document that listed formerly enslaved people by first and last name, which makes it really hard to trace anyone further back than that. In fact, people call it the 1870 brick wall.

42:36A brick wall that Etta herself was facing. So how do you find Hector Fields? I was working with the International African-American Museum Center for Family History. They identified Hector Fields as a veteran in Beaufort. So I took these little lists and I went down to the National Archives and I pulled these pension files. And Hector's file was a bust. There was no family information. It was like 30 pages long. I put it on the shelf.

43:06You know, when I looked at the other pension files, the beauty came when we discovered the pension file of Hector's brother, Jonas Fields. This pension file, the file from Hector's brother, was more than 250 pages long. And it contained precious details about the Fields family. Details that Etta never would have learned otherwise. The name of his siblings, the names of their parents, how they got separated during the war. My aunt was given away as a wedding gift.

43:39The slaveholder gave her to his daughter when she got married. So the whole, it just opened up so many doors for our family history. Etta followed one document to another, one pension file to the next, until she learned something that no one in her family had known before. That Hector Fields, her great-great-great-grandfather, was one of the soldiers on the Comby raid. That he took part in freeing 756 people from bondage. Her own ancestor was among those presumptuous black soldiers who set the world on fire.

44:14Of all the remarkable things that Etta was able to do with these pension files, there's one that stands apart. Not because it's the most complex, but because it may be the most basic. She was able to restore people's real names. The names of the soldiers and the freedom seekers who took part in the raid. Not the names of their slaveholders, but the names they gave themselves. Jack Aiken, Sunday Briscoe, Robert and Phoebe Frazier, Captain Brown, Edward and Peggy Brown.

44:52My goal was to tell the story of the notable and the nameless, right? The people we know and the people we don't know. The people whose names we know and the people whose names we've never heard before. And their names have never been recorded before. Puffy and Sophia Bowles. Samson Drayton.

45:23Thomas and Bella Drayton. And so how do we identify their names and tell their stories and then write their names in the annals of history? That's what I wanted to do. Carolina, Flora and Stephanie Grant. Jackson and Jane Grant.

45:47Jeffrey and Phoebe Gray. Dr. Etta Fields Black, thank you so much for talking with me. I really enjoyed it. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me.

46:08A History of the United States and 100 Objects is a production of 99% Invisible and BBC Studios. It's hosted and curated by me, Roman Mars. This episode was produced by Brenna Daldorf. Our other producers are Priscilla Alabi and Ellie Lightfoot. Our associate producer is Isaac Fisher. This series was edited by Annie Brown and Courtney Harrell. Mixing by Charlie Brandon King. Fact-checking by Amy Bracken. Our theme song is by Swan Real. From 99% Invisible, our executive producer is Kathy Tu.

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